Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:16 am  

The whole Leveson enquiry is a farce. Its just an excuse for politicians to muzzle the media and settle old scores e.g. Lib Dems attacking Murdoch for never supporting them and Labour attacking him for abandoning him. All this enquiry will achieve is to demolish the freedom of the press and enhance the power of the self-serving corrupt political class.

Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:04 am  

David Titan wrote:

The whole Leveson enquiry is a farce. Its just an excuse for politicians to muzzle the media and settle old scores e.g. Lib Dems attacking Murdoch for never supporting them and Labour attacking him for abandoning him. All this enquiry will achieve is to demolish the freedom of the press and enhance the power of the self-serving corrupt political class.

If people were serious about this, they'd expedite the criminal enquiries and lock up dozens and dozens and then decide whether an enquiry were even necessary. It's just a show.

Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:51 am  

The first thing I would do is make a rule that they have to abide by that means ANY retraction is a FULL front page oppology.

I will bet a pound to a bucket of pig swill that the false stories would dry up overnight simply because they would not want to risk the utter embarrassment of their front page being a massive notification that they print rubbish.


Edit-Just to clarify the paper themselves don't write the oppology the PCC or whatever they will then be called write it for the paper so as to stop spin.

Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:44 am  

David Titan wrote:

The whole Leveson enquiry is a farce. Its just an excuse for politicians to muzzle the media and settle old scores e.g. Lib Dems attacking Murdoch for never supporting them and Labour attacking him for abandoning him. All this enquiry will achieve is to demolish the freedom of the press and enhance the power of the self-serving corrupt political class.

I know you're a troll, but the Leveson enquiry has actually exposed some of the journalists, editors and proprietors as utterly undesrerving of the so-called freedom of the press. If all it does is put people back in their boxes and return us to a proper, lawful, sensible press, it will have been significantly less than a farce. The fact that the enquiry has happened at all, and the revelations coming out from it, gives people less credence in the press in its current "format" so they'll have to change if they want to keep making money (which let's face it, is what it's all about anyway).

Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:42 am  

Chris28 wrote:

I know you're a troll,

It makes me laugh how whenever someone expresses views different to the consensus (on here, rather than in the country at large) they are automatically "a troll"! Have you ever considered this might be his genuine view or are you so lacking in confidence that you go round in a bubble surrounded by people who affirm your own views?

Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:17 pm  

Ok, not a troll. An idiot, if that is his considered view

[DaveO]

Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:25 pm  

Dally wrote:

It makes me laugh how whenever someone expresses views different to the consensus (on here, rather than in the country at large) they are automatically "a troll"! Have you ever considered this might be his genuine view or are you so lacking in confidence that you go round in a bubble surrounded by people who affirm your own views?

Well the accepted definition of a troll is someone who posts inflammatory or ludicrous stuff to a group while ostensibly being a reasonable member of the group. I think he qualifies.

Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:37 pm  

Dally wrote:

It makes me laugh how whenever someone expresses views different to the consensus (on here, rather than in the country at large) they are automatically "a troll"! Have you ever considered this might be his genuine view or are you so lacking in confidence that you go round in a bubble surrounded by people who affirm your own views?

I think the assumption that he is trolling is the kindest assumption that could have been made.

[DaveO]

Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:18 pm  

Well the Leveson enquiry is certainly shedding quite a bit of light on the way things are done in government never mind the press. The stuff that came out of Hunt's testimony jusgt confirms to me it is just a game for a bunch of ex-public school toffs. This details a lot of the stuff that went on and summarises the farce concisely (as well as being an excellent political assassination of Hunt) http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/31/leveson-hunt-scoundrel-or-fool We have minsters discussing policy by text message and using private unaudited email accounts to conduct government business. I can't even use the web mail outlook client to access my works email on anything other than a company machine yet our government is being run by text message and gmail !!!

Well the Leveson enquiry is certainly shedding quite a bit of light on the way things are done in government never mind the press. The stuff that came out of Hunt's testimony jusgt confirms to me it is just a game for a bunch of ex-public school toffs. This details a lot of the stuff that went on and summarises the farce concisely (as well as being an excellent political assassination of Hunt) http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/31/leveson-hunt-scoundrel-or-fool We have minsters discussing policy by text message and using private unaudited email accounts to conduct government business. I can't even use the web mail outlook client to access my works email on anything other than a company machine yet our government is being run by text message and gmail !!!

Re: News International – the story continues : Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:53 pm  

DaveO wrote:

We have minsters discussing policy by text message and using private unaudited email accounts to conduct government business.

I can't even use the web mail outlook client to access my works email on anything other than a company machine yet our government is being run by text message and gmail !!!

I saw that, and as an ex-Private Secretary I was astounded. His staff must be pulling their hair out. Everything my boss did had to be noted (phone calls, meetings etc). Really beggars belief that he was allowed off the leash so much.