Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:15 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Actually, even though you are a spoof account, thats where you are wrong.

Really? During World War 1 Germans living in Britain were locked up without trial, where they were deemed to pose a security risk. During World War 2 Germans and domestic fascists were detained without trial. How often on a battlefield do soldiers have to consider the "right to life" of enemy combatants? Do you think that during the D-Day landings the Allied forces had time to put the German troops on trial before it was legitimate to take action against them?

Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:22 pm  

John_D wrote:

I feel substantially more threatened by a government seeking to pick and choose which laws it adheres to as and when it feels like it than I do about a bile-spouter like Qatada who is easily ignored, patronised, belittled, whatever.

Are you crazy? Was it the British government that detonated the bombs on 7/7? Was it the British government that drove a car into Glasgow airport with the intention of blowing it up? Was it the US government that flew the planes into the WTC on 9/11? Was it the Indian government that staged the mass shootings in Mumbai? Was it the Indonesian government that detonated bombs in Bali? Please could you provide me with some figures showing how many British innocent British citizens have been killed in this country by the Labour/Tory governments to support the idea that the Government is more dangerous than the Islamist terrorists who which to abolish democracy, remove all our freedoms and kill all of us that reverse to accept Islamism?

Thankfully there were not morons like you during World War 2. You would have been moaning that Churchill represented a big danger to Britain than the Luftwaffe flying over our skies during the Battle of Britain or bombing our cities during the Blitz.

Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:31 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Please phrase "common sense"in a legal way, so that laws can be recognised and adhered to

S14
p13
- a) If a person or persons born outside the EU are deemed to be "taking the mickey" by a jury of 100 of their peers, they shall be found guilty and deportedback to their country of origin forthwith.

Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:44 am  

TrinityIHC wrote:

S14
p13
- a) If a person or persons born outside the EU are deemed to be "taking the mickey" by a jury of 100 of their peers, they shall be found guilty and deportedback to their country of origin forthwith.

Well that's certainly "common" but you are missing the "sense" bit by a bus stop

Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:10 am  

David Titan wrote:

Really? During World War 1 Germans living in Britain were locked up without trial, where they were deemed to pose a security risk. During World War 2 Germans and domestic fascists were detained without trial. How often on a battlefield do soldiers have to consider the "right to life" of enemy combatants? Do you think that during the D-Day landings the Allied forces had time to put the German troops on trial before it was legitimate to take action against them?

Yes, lots of things happened 70 and 100 years ago that don't happen now, the author who seems to think that you are a real person would probably have been locked up for schizophrenia for one thing, if you look a little closer to the real time date you'll see the reality of what happens when soldiers mistreat prisoners and the reality of what transpires when a state decides to imprison "suspects" without trial - how long would you like to detain political prisoners for ?

[Kosh]

Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:59 am  

WormInHand wrote:

Thought so. But he's been in gaol for most of that time?

Anti-terrorism legislation doesn't require you to have actually done anything to get banged up. Or at least put under effective house arrest.

Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:11 am  

Abu Qatada's timeline from 1993 to present Seems like there's been penty of opportunity to put him before a British court, you have to wonder why it hasn't happened

Abu Qatada's timeline from 1993 to present Seems like there's been penty of opportunity to put him before a British court, you have to wonder why it hasn't happened

Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:15 am  

cod'ead wrote: Abu Qatada's timeline from 1993 to present Seems like there's been penty of opportunity to put him before a British court, you have to wonder why it hasn't happened You do don't you, wonder what the reasons could be !!

cod'ead wrote: Abu Qatada's timeline from 1993 to present Seems like there's been penty of opportunity to put him before a British court, you have to wonder why it hasn't happened You do don't you, wonder what the reasons could be !!

Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:57 am  

David Titan wrote:

Thatcher understood this, hence her opposition to reunification.

Ah, the great Mrs T! Are you still smarting about not being allowed time off work to mourn and watch her funeral?

Re: Abu Qatada - the sequel : Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:31 am  

Dally wrote:

Ah, the great Mrs T! Are you still smarting about not being allowed time off work to mourn and watch her funeral?

On the day of this public waste of money I was at a meeting at our head office in Milton Keynes, populated mostly by drones who's main topic of conversation is how much their house is worth this week, I am sure most of them are cloned from the stem cells of George Osbourne. In the foyer there was a notice saying 'there will be prayers as a mark of respect for Baroness Thatcher at 11am in the auditorium'. Needless to say, most of us 'norvern scam' gave it a miss.