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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:28 pm  
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Neither, it's David Moyes' new Korean striker I think.


Is Barraco Barner involved now too did I hear? :)
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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:03 pm  
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That would involve having backbone so it'll not happen.


Backbone but no brains.

One Hyde Park is a British development funded by Qatari money. It is partnered with the Mandarin Oriental hotel. The record sale was to a Ukranian billionaire.

Russia have far more right to "invade" Russia than the UK Govt has to "take back" One Hyde Park. It's pretty much as ignorant as a Londoner wanting to bomb Leeds because of the 7/7 attacks.
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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:22 pm  
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I suppose you would prefer to await civil war and attempted ethnic cleansing before any action is taken


Yes. Absolutely 100% I would.
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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:53 pm  
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Is this a Ukrainian or Russian political prisoner, or are you talking about One Hyde Park?


I'm talking of the whopping big and expensive building – one among many (and they're increasing) – that, rumour has it, are actually ways of laundering eastern European mafioso dosh, as opposed to the others that are being bought by Hong Kong sources at equally daft prices (thus helping to drive up property costs further) and are then not even lived in, as they're simply there as an investment.

Think how many people you could house in any of those?

And if it's the Ukranian mafia instead of the Russian variety – perhaps that's a reason to support the Russkis.
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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:08 pm  
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Yes. Absolutely 100% I would.


So you believe in the principle of appeasement (except where it involves appeasing Russia)!
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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:09 pm  
Can we take back Australia, after all there are more English speakers than Aborigines and their army isn't amazing, and they are getting a bit too big for their boots?

No...anyone?
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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:14 pm  
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Can we take back Australia, after all there are more English speakers than Aborigines and their army isn't amazing, and they are getting a bit too big for their boots?

No...anyone?


Don't they still have allegiance to Her Majesty?
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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:14 pm  
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Well, these sort of shenanigans may simply be considered a good night out in your circle, but are the cause for many a raised eyebrow amongst the more normal of us........ And of course the West Country is still flooded!



Nice one - You will be putting up a link next to do with Lee Rigby's killing, in order to prove that all Muslims are evil, wicked terrorists.... :roll:
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Well, these sort of shenanigans may simply be considered a good night out in your circle, but are the cause for many a raised eyebrow amongst the more normal of us........ And of course the West Country is still flooded!



Nice one - You will be putting up a link next to do with Lee Rigby's killing, in order to prove that all Muslims are evil, wicked terrorists.... :roll:
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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:45 pm  
To give some context to the Russian psyche where Crimea is concerned, consider how huge WWII is in the British psyche. We lost over 400,000 people in that war. Russia (not USSR) are estimated to have lost c. 14 million. Russian military losses in Crimea were more than total British losses in the war. Crimea was then part of Russia then - Khrushchev only gave it to Ukraine in 1954 as an autonomous part of the USSR . Khrushchev, not surprisingly, was from Ukraine!

Now if Britain or the US where in Russia's shoes what might their attitude be?
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Re: Hypocrisy Of The West Regarding Ukraine : Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:59 pm  
Dally wrote:
To give some context to the Russian psyche where Crimea is concerned, consider how huge WWII is in the British psyche. We lost over 400,000 people in that war. Russia (not USSR) are estimated to have lost c. 14 million. Russian military losses in Crimea were more than total British losses in the war. Crimea was then part of Russia then - Khrushchev only gave it to Ukraine in 1954 as an autonomous part of the USSR . Khrushchev, not surprisingly, was from Ukraine!

Now if Britain or the US where in Russia's shoes what might their attitude be?


Similar to us going to war over the Falklands IMO
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