Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:38 pm  

Strinket wrote:

Again, because this line gets trotted out repeatedly by the Leavers. Two thirds of Labour voters backed Remain. Almost three quarters of the membership.

Where you get the notion otherwise, I really don’t know.

Is that Labour members or Labour voters and if so, why did so many Labour constituencies vote "Leave", especially in the North of England and is this just more fake news

70% of Labour Constituencies voted to Leave the EU!
David Mallon delegate from Blyth valley CLP.
David Mallon talked passionately at the Labour Party conference imploring the Labour Party not accept the People’s Vote.
David told the conference in no uncertain terms what supporting a people’s vote would mean to the people of his constituency. David’s constituency of Blyth valley was just one of the 70% of Labour constituencies that voted to leave the EU.
David invited the conference to “come to Blyth valley the area of Blyth valley the rundown abandoned constituency telling in a clear message for too long these people have felt marginalised.”

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:01 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Is that Labour members or Labour voters and if so, why did so many Labour constituencies vote "Leave", especially in the North of England and is this just more fake news

70% of Labour Constituencies voted to Leave the EU!
David Mallon delegate from Blyth valley CLP.
David Mallon talked passionately at the Labour Party conference imploring the Labour Party not accept the People’s Vote.
David told the conference in no uncertain terms what supporting a people’s vote would mean to the people of his constituency. David’s constituency of Blyth valley was just one of the 70% of Labour constituencies that voted to leave the EU.
David invited the conference to “come to Blyth valley the area of Blyth valley the rundown abandoned constituency telling in a clear message for too long these people have felt marginalised.”

And what benefit did the suddenly prophetic David think that leaving the EU would bring to his marginalised constituents?

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:09 pm  

bren2k wrote:

And what benefit did the suddenly prophetic David think that leaving the EU would bring to his marginalised constituents?

I'm not sure Bren but, if 2/3 of Labour voters voted remain and yet 70% of Labour constituencies voted Leave, i'm not convinced that everyone is telling the right tale and at some point, regardless of whether it's Labour or the Tories in power, somebody has to reconcile the differences between the two halves of the nation, starting with the elected members in Westminster.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:02 pm  

You are aware that in a Labour constituency, not everyone votes for Labour?

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:41 pm  

Just to explain further.

Labour - 45% (16% Leave)
Tories - 36% (26% Leave)
UKIP - 10% (10% Leave)
LibDem - 9% (0 Leave)

A bit of a simplification but it’s clearly a Labour seat.

Almost two thirds of Labour vote remain. Leave wins 52-48.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:58 pm  

Strinket wrote:

Just to explain further.

Labour - 45% (16% Leave)
Tories - 36% (26% Leave)
UKIP - 10% (10% Leave)
LibDem - 9% (0 Leave)

A bit of a simplification but it’s clearly a Labour seat.

Almost two thirds of Labour vote remain. Leave wins 52-48.

A*, you just passed level 2 Brexit

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:48 pm  

Strinket wrote:

Just to explain further.

Labour - 45% (16% Leave)
Tories - 36% (26% Leave)
UKIP - 10% (10% Leave)
LibDem - 9% (0 Leave)

A bit of a simplification but it’s clearly a Labour seat.

Almost two thirds of Labour vote remain. Leave wins 52-48.

Funny but only time will tell , I live in a massive Labour maj seat , and I don't know anybody who voted stay

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:10 pm  

Whereas not one of my friends, work colleagues or immediate family voted Leave and I live in Wakefield that was upwards of 60% Leave.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:47 pm  

Strinket wrote:

Whereas not one of my friends, work colleagues or immediate family voted Leave and I live in Wakefield that was upwards of 60% Leave.

Wakefield was a huge leave area 66.4% and I clearly remember the Question Time programme being from there.
Not too many remainers. It reminded me of going to Widnes on a Friday night and sitting in the wrong place.

[Bullseye]

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:58 am  

If leave voters in marginalised areas think the Tories give a monkey’s about them they’re deluded. Trouble is that for years few others have either, including Labour. The EU means nothing to many people in these areas. Nobody articulated how it benefits them to be in it. They only heard the downside. So when the referendum came along it was a stick with which to beat the establishment.