Ian Brady : Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:57 am  

Believes he is sane and wants out of Ashworth to go to a prison in Scotland where he can starve himself to death.

Surely he won't make it out of Ashworth, right?

Re: Ian Brady : Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:01 am  

Regardless of whichever human on the planet is under discussion, does anyone else see the diagnostic unreliability of "HE believes he is sane"?

Re: Ian Brady : Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:26 pm  

It's an interesting position for him to take.

Brady wants to starve himself to death. Arguably not the rational approach of any sane human being. If he attempts to do so in a mainstream prison I'm pretty sure they are duty bound to intervene, so he'll end up back in hospital again.

Wherever he goes, he's going to be on constant suicide watch so it's going to be incredibly difficult for him to find any other way of topping himself.

Re: Ian Brady : Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:33 pm  

I can't imagine the authorities will allow him to transfer to another prison just to starve himself.

Re: Ian Brady : Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:24 pm  

I'm sure Brady believes many things about himself. I'm equally sure that 99% of the world's population would disagree with him on most of them.

Re: Ian Brady : Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:37 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

It's an interesting position for him to take.

Brady wants to starve himself to death. Arguably not the rational approach of any sane human being. If he attempts to do so in a mainstream prison I'm pretty sure they are duty bound to intervene, so he'll end up back in hospital again.

Wherever he goes, he's going to be on constant suicide watch so it's going to be incredibly difficult for him to find any other way of topping himself.

He wants to be judged sane by the tribunal and moved to a prison in Scotland, where there is no precedent for feeding a prisoner on hunger strike against his will.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Ian Brady : Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:50 pm  

As he has had NO mental health treatment of any kind for 11 years then it is quite probable that he does not meet the criteria or detention on grounds of mental health as the key criteria is that they have a mental health problem which is TREATABLE.
Although he has a personality disorder it is untreatable

If it is treatable why are they not treating him. Sounds like he has agood medical and legal case.

Re: Ian Brady : Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:35 pm  

Keep him in hospital on a feeding tube, he might suffer until he is 100.

Re: Ian Brady : Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:33 pm  

Just kill the nice bloke, put him on a drip feed of bleach

Re: Ian Brady : Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:18 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

As he has had NO mental health treatment of any kind for 11 years then it is quite probable that he does not meet the criteria or detention on grounds of mental health as the key criteria is that they have a mental health problem which is TREATABLE.
Although he has a personality disorder it is untreatable

If it is treatable why are they not treating him. Sounds like he has agood medical and legal case.

So you argue that someone can be madder than Madam McMad, but unless their madness is treatable, they can't be sectioned, but must be left alone to go wherever their madness takes them?

Anyway, like any other sectioned person, he is exercising his right to have a MH Trib rule on it. Personally, I hope he wins, I don't see any objection to letting him top himself, he is that rare thing, a piece of irredeemable subhuman scum, with zero mitigating qualities, and ending his own life would be perhaps the first decent thing he's done, although he'd be doing it for no-one but his egotistical self.