FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - The extent of sports "fixing"
::Off-topic discussion.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 05 200123 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Jul 17 01:3911th May 17 20:59LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Aleph Green

The extent of sports "fixing" : Fri May 13, 2016 12:12 am  
Question: If the amount of money bet on sport is equivalent to (or considerably beyond) turnover - is the temptation for sport to fix the outcomes of not just games but entire championships irresistible?

It's comforting to think the world's major sports are prepared to leave potential billion-dollar outcomes to chance - but is it realistic?

If the Mafia's activities are anything to go by it's just a matter of attacking the weakest link in the chain. Whilst it's likely to be tricky encouraging, say, a multi-millionaire NFL quarterback to shave points - can the same be said of referees or other officials?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4648
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 25 201015 years222nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Nov 24 12:0216th Oct 24 08:59LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
BD23
Signature
"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him."

Re: The extent of sports "fixing" : Fri May 13, 2016 11:29 am  
I know a chap who used to referee football professionally as far back as the 50s and 60s. Before a Juventus game in Italy he was invited into the boardroom by the Agnelli family who were a major power in Italy controlling both Juventus FC and FIAT. He was given the big welcome and full hospitality, he was also presented with a rather nice gold watch. Although he says he wasn't openly bribed, he did feel as though he was being influenced by what was then an extremely wealthy and powerful family.

Then there are the famous cases of match fixing. Hansie Cronje for one example. Died as the only passenger on a chartered plane and left 8 properties and 19 bank accounts through which a million pound had passed.

When you think of the money floating round sport and gambling these days it's hard not to believe that there will be major influences on outcomes. Anyone thinking modern sport is black and white is seriously naive.
Dally 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14845No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 22 200123 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Oct 21 15:0122nd Jul 21 09:42LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: The extent of sports "fixing" : Fri May 13, 2016 12:57 pm  
Mugwump wrote:
Question: If the amount of money bet on sport is equivalent to (or considerably beyond) turnover - is the temptation for sport to fix the outcomes of not just games but entire championships irresistible?

It's comforting to think the world's major sports are prepared to leave potential billion-dollar outcomes to chance - but is it realistic?

If the Mafia's activities are anything to go by it's just a matter of attacking the weakest link in the chain. Whilst it's likely to be tricky encouraging, say, a multi-millionaire NFL quarterback to shave points - can the same be said of referees or other officials?


Horse racing has always been about betting and that's not rigged.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 05 200123 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Jul 17 01:3911th May 17 20:59LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Aleph Green

Re: The extent of sports "fixing" : Fri May 13, 2016 2:32 pm  
From purely a BUSINESS perspective I think you'd be crazy NOT TO fix entire competitions. Sure, there's the risk of discovery - although a few greased palms should easily mitigate the problem. Besides, you can always throw some low-level dweeb under the bus and claim complete and utter ignorance.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 05 200123 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Jul 17 01:3911th May 17 20:59LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Aleph Green

Re: The extent of sports "fixing" : Fri May 13, 2016 2:34 pm  
What's to stop, say, the Premiership from instructing referees to "go easy" on Leicester City?

I'm not saying it has happened. But I don't see why it couldn't happen.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain154No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 29 20169 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
30th May 16 10:0120th May 16 09:01LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: The extent of sports "fixing" : Sun May 15, 2016 6:14 am  
Mugwump wrote:
What's to stop, say, the Premiership from instructing referees to "go easy" on Leicester City?

I'm not saying it has happened. But I don't see why it couldn't happen.

Lets be honest, you see conspiracy in everything, because you're unhinged.
vekder 
RankPostsTeam
International Star416No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 31 201312 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Dec 16 23:1322nd Dec 16 21:24LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: The extent of sports "fixing" : Sun May 15, 2016 10:09 am  
EASTCOASTFC2016 wrote:
Lets be honest, you see conspiracy in everything, because you're unhinged.

Spot on.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 05 200123 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Jul 17 01:3911th May 17 20:59LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Aleph Green

Re: The extent of sports "fixing" : Sun May 15, 2016 1:30 pm  
EASTCOASTFC2016 wrote:
Lets be honest, you see conspiracy in everything, because you're unhinged.


Still trying desperately to get people to notice you?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 05 200123 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Jul 17 01:3911th May 17 20:59LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Aleph Green

Re: The extent of sports "fixing" : Sun May 15, 2016 7:32 pm  
From the NBC.com archives:

"I'll betcha five bucks you can't guess how much money was bet on the Super Bowl this year. Double or nothing: How much do Americans wager on March Madness annually?

Sports betting is big money, and a bid by New Jersey to get a piece of the action is easily understood when you consider some of these numbers:

According to the Nevada Gaming Commission, $3.2 billion was wagered in sports bets in the state’s casinos in 2011. Of that amount, $1.34 billion or 41 percent was handled just for football.

Sports fans bet a record $98.9 million at Nevada casinos on Super Bowl XLVII, according to the American Gaming Association. After paying out to bettors, Nevada sports books earned $7.2 million on 2013’s game.

Extrapolating from Nevada data, the financial planning website Mint estimates that more than $8 billion is wagered every year on the Super Bowl alone. An estimated 200 million people making wagers on the outcome of the game worldwide.

Between $60-70 billion is illegally wagered on college football each year according to CNBC.

Thirty-three million Americans participate in fantasy football, according to the Fantasy Sports Trade Association. The FSTA found that $1.18 billion changes hands between players through pools each year.

Between $30-40 billion is illegally wagered on Major League Baseball each year, according to CNBC. Baseball is not as big of a betting sport because of the lack of point spreads.

The FBI estimates that more than $2.5 billion is illegally wagered annually on the three-week March Madness postseason tournament each year, according to the AGA.

As much as 25 percent of illegal wagers placed on college basketball games each year comes during March Madness, according to CNBC.

Sports book operators estimate $80 million to $90 million — less than 4 percent of the illegal take — is wagered on the NCAA tournament legally through Nevada’s 216sports books, says the AGA.

One in 10 Americans play March Madness brackets according the data-processing website, wagersolutions.com."
vekder 
RankPostsTeam
International Star416No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 31 201312 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Dec 16 23:1322nd Dec 16 21:24LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: The extent of sports "fixing" : Sun May 15, 2016 9:06 pm  
I bet you're fun at parties.
Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 88 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to The Sin Bin


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
15m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4007
25m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
61
26m
Pre Season - 2025
OmneFC
180
26m
Film game
karetaker
5588
29m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
48m
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
59m
Fixtures
Wollo-Wollo-
9
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40713
Recent
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
14s
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
15s
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
17s
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
23s
Salford
rubber ducki
8
28s
Out of contract 2025
ratticusfinc
61
38s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4007
50s
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Stanfax
52
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
rollin thund
4
1m
Film game
karetaker
5588
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
1
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Wollo-Wollo-
9
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Willzay
16
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
236
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
471
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1235
England's Women Demolish The W..
1063
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1297
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1090
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1350
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1897
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2115
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2358
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1933
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2168
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2635
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2060
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2140
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
15m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4007
25m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
61
26m
Pre Season - 2025
OmneFC
180
26m
Film game
karetaker
5588
29m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
48m
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
59m
Fixtures
Wollo-Wollo-
9
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40713
Recent
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
14s
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
15s
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
17s
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
23s
Salford
rubber ducki
8
28s
Out of contract 2025
ratticusfinc
61
38s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4007
50s
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Stanfax
52
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
rollin thund
4
1m
Film game
karetaker
5588
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
1
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Wollo-Wollo-
9
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Willzay
16
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
236
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
471
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1235
England's Women Demolish The W..
1063
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1297
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1090
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1350
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1897
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2115
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2358
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1933
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2168
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2635
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2060
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2140


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!