Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:46 pm  

Cronus wrote:

:lol: Amongst many excellent examples, that is possibly the most stupid thing you've ever said on here.

IR80 wrote:

You need the buckles on your jacket tightening.

Oh the Irony
Two of the dimmest bulbs attempting to illuminate the forum

Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:04 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Oh the Irony
Two of the dimmest bulbs attempting to illuminate the forum

Haven't you worked out what Flashman and Standee have in common yet?

Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:03 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Haven't you worked out what Flashman and Standee have in common yet?

Hmmm

To much of a coincidence for them both to be gay , so I would plumb for them having the same IP address as Jean

Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:29 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Hmmm

To much of a coincidence for them both to be gay

Deary me.

Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:23 pm  

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 86496.html Trump threatening the UK with 25% tariffs on cars unless it officially accused Iran of breaking the nuclear deal. Shows how strong the special relationship is and how the UK, in a vulnerable position on trade with trade barriers about to go up with the EU, is easy to boss around.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 86496.html Trump threatening the UK with 25% tariffs on cars unless it officially accused Iran of breaking the nuclear deal. Shows how strong the special relationship is and how the UK, in a vulnerable position on trade with trade barriers about to go up with the EU, is easy to boss around.

Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:31 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-tariffs-uk-iran-nuclear-deal-france-germany-eu-a9286496.html

Trump threatening the UK with 25% tariffs on cars unless it officially accused Iran of breaking the nuclear deal.

Shows how strong the special relationship is and how the UK, in a vulnerable position on trade with trade barriers about to go up with the EU, is easy to boss around.

Says the Indy, quoting Tehran and un named european sources.... yup, must be true.

Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:16 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Perhaps we should just call it quits then, yes?

It's interesting so many are blaming the US for creating an atmosphere of war. What they forget is that in the late 80s during the Iran-Iraq war, Iran was attacking shipping in the Hormuz Straits and had mined the area, almost sinking a US frigate, which led to Operation Praying Mantis and the US decimating Iranian forces in the area. There was a rather more an atmosphere of war in those days - there actually WAS a war, a major war.

You should read the background and details of IR655. While it was a monumental fck-up, it was hardly a snap judgement, trigger-happy moment.

Watching the left has reinforced my opinion of them in the last few days. Whataboutery on an epic level.
Plane goes down: "never an accident, definitely the US."
Questions around suspicious photos: "could be anything and probably planted by the US."
Already geo-located video emerges of the missile strike: "fake, definitely fake, a US fake."
Iran admits shooting it down: "errrm well the US did the same thing 32 years ago so it's still all their fault."

And of course Jeremy Corbyn - friend of Iran as we all know - was still calling it a crash this afternoon.

American have killed close to half a million innocent people since they invaded the Middle East.

How many have isis killed?

Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:37 am  

It would also appear we have weakened our position on food quality despite promises to the contrary. It was originally planned to add the protections in the new trade agreement but have now been removed, I wonder why.
We will now see how strong our resolve is without the support of the EU when Boris starts negotiations with his life coach Trump.

Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:45 am  

Johnson has suppressed schoolboy desires of becoming a strongman's fag. Trump is the pinnacle of these desires.

Re: new conflict in middle east ? : Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:55 am  

IR80 wrote:

Says the Indy, quoting Tehran and un named european sources.... yup, must be true.

What is beyond doubt is the swift "falling into line" by Johnson.
A couple of weeks ago, all of the main European leaders, including Johnson, were expressing disappointment that Trump wanted to scrap the previous agreement and now, suddenly, Boris is fully endorsing the change.
We know that he has a habit of changing his mind but, even for Boris, this was a pretty swift U turn.