Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Sun May 01, 2011 9:57 pm  

Given current performances and results is it time for Matt Calland to leave the club?

Vote and discuss

Re: Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Sun May 01, 2011 10:23 pm  

Pointless poll!! As at this moment both apply to him but neither will happen

Re: Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Sun May 01, 2011 10:25 pm  

give someone else a chance, this club should be doing better

Re: Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Mon May 02, 2011 12:02 am  

It's important to take the view of the public, however from where I sat at the Shay today I don't need to forecast the result. Matts tenure at the shay has become untenable. Great while it lasted but it's over now. I'm sure MC will have a great career going forward, but his work at Fax is done. Let's hope Mike, Mike and Roger for whom I hold the highest regard have the balls to do the right thing.
I'm not going to tell the board who to chose as his successor as I am sure they will do a good job and appoint the right man.
Its not rocket science to deduce that Mr Probiz is not going to want to align his company with a bunch of losers. The supporters are already showing their unhappiness with the awful attendances that's going to continue to fall.
Do it now so at least we can have some kind of excuse when we air our washing in front of the national audience next week.
It really is make or break time.

Re: Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Mon May 02, 2011 7:42 am  

Blue & White Dynamite wrote:

It's important to take the view of the public, however from where I sat at the Shay today I don't need to forecast the result. Matts tenure at the shay has become untenable. Great while it lasted but it's over now. I'm sure MC will have a great career going forward, but his work at Fax is done. Let's hope Mike, Mike and Roger for whom I hold the highest regard have the balls to do the right thing.
I'm not going to tell the board who to chose as his successor as I am sure they will do a good job and appoint the right man.
Its not rocket science to deduce that Mr Probiz is not going to want to align his company with a bunch of losers. The supporters are already showing their unhappiness with the awful attendances that's going to continue to fall.
Do it now so at least we can have some kind of excuse when we air our washing in front of the national audience next week.
It really is make or break time.

Roger ? if you mean Roger Harvey he isn`t on the board it`s Mike Riley , Michael Steele , Ian Croad and Tony Abbot. I also have the highest regard for these men and would not like to be on their position that`s for sure.
But the at the end of the day the Club and the players are in the entertainment business and while die hard fans will stick by the Club through the not so good times we are supposed to be trying to build up the crowds for Super League.
Anyone coming down to a game to give it a try will not come again to watch players who only try for half a game.People can spend their money elsewhere to be entertained especialy what`s on offer these days it`s down to Matt and the players to see they want to come back for more. If they don`t want to buy into the "entertainment tag " they`ll have to ship out fast if it were up to me.
I went into the Harveys Suite after the game and was shocked at how few people were in there , I suppose that is down to all the season tickets holders by now having taken advantage of the free meal offer. The mood was awful as you can expect Pete was doing his best as usual but once more no sign of Calland or most of the players he has been with the Club long enough now to know it`s part of the job win or lose to say a few words to sponsors . Every other coach does it why not him and I know he and the players must have been upset well so was everyone else. I think the fans who have stuck by the club all these years need to be made to feel something is going to be done about the situation or I `m afraid we will lose a few more .
I know fans who have followed the club for years who still have not got a Bradford ticket yet because they don`t want to see the Blue and White shirt they have worn for life be humiliated by the ones who have "borrowed it " for a short time.The sponsors and fans need reasureance that he is trying to turn it round , the " he `s shy doesn`t like speaking in public" doesn`t wash with me he does perfectly ok when he has to speak on Sky . The thing is then he has to if Sky tell him they want an interview he has to do it IT`S PART AND PARCEL OF THE JOB it`s called the entertainment industry.
I am not saying he should be sacked but I think the cosy relationship he has had with some players is in part responsible and the cosy relationship that Calland has with the Club is responsible too.

Re: Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Mon May 02, 2011 8:40 am  

Its a double edged sword for the club now. By the sounds of it MC was one of very few people at the club who took a paycut even though others came out in the paper saying they had. FWIW i thought he should have got a pay rise after last year so if the board do decide to get rid it will leave a very bitter taste for MC because he probably feels he did the club a favour by doing this. He also then finds his playing budget cut but then to compound that fact he makes some of the worse signings for the club that we have seen in recent history, maybe he was under pressure from the board to get some `Halifax` lads in, who knows.

On the flip side he isnt going to resign so the board would have to get rid which would mean paying him off and from what certain players have alluded to then nobody is sure if this is even an option. Would i trust the board to get the right man? I dont really think so to be honest. I dont know much about TA but theres only IC on there who i think has the business nounce to do this right, maybe his hands are tied though. Dont get me wrong i appreciate that people have got to put their hand up to run a rugby club but are they running as tight a ship as they should be?

One things for sure the longer it goes on the more people will vote with their feet and if no action is taken one way or another it may be too late and we will be visiting some different grounds next season and they wont be SL ones.

Re: Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Mon May 02, 2011 8:52 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

I dont know much about TA but theres only IC on there who i think has the business nounce to do this right, maybe his hands are tied though. Dont get me wrong i appreciate that people have got to put their hand up to run a rugby club but are they running as tight a ship as they should be?

Having heard Tony Abbott speak, he seems to be fairly intelligent, knows his stuff.

It's not easy for the board right now, there may be people on the forum calling for Calland to go, but at the ground on match days there's no real movement for it, anyone who was in the Southstand Lounge a few years ago when 2 board members came in and the whole place was calling for Farrell to go will know what I mean there.

Something has to happen, but I dont know what, is sacking Calland and bringing in another coach (who's available) going to make any difference to how certain players play?

Calland said it himself, when the team win, they're the heroes, when they lose, he's the villain,

Re: Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Mon May 02, 2011 8:56 am  

Clear the decks BOD's
As ive said before, we have more coaches than Abbeyways and we have brought in too many bit part players who are simply signing off their careers with a good club.
We could quite easily offload some of them and get a strong coach in.
Steele isn't a risk taker though so i fully expect him to get his way if this is ever discussed round the table, he's turning into Doug Ellis.
It's very sad, were one good coach away from taking off, foundations are in place, come on BOD's lets take it to the next level, lets be ruthless on the pitch, this needs a new man in charge. The place needs freshening up fast before your attendance budgets are in tatters, instead of less than 1500 (This IS Coming unless things change) you should have been looking at 3000+.

p.s enough of this dont panic stuff, the sides in league are coming on fast, we have been treading water with the best squad for years now, 2 Grand finals doesn't tell the whole story does it! Were Halifax RLFC for crying out loud.

Re: Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Mon May 02, 2011 9:03 am  

To be fair there were more people hanging around after games back then! I now sit in the East Stand just below where Calland stands and there was plenty of discord at the end of the game and mostly aimed at Callands tenure. I wish we could just stabalise and capitalise on our success. We always seem to fall back into a "club in crisis" mode every 3-5 years. Makes it interesting as a fan but makes you look over your shoulder and wonder what catastrophe is around the corner!! It's never dull!! The club now has a feel around the place like during the run up to the end of Faz's stint. We spoke then about being strapped for cash etc but we must act before it's too late and I hope the club do the right thing as the club is hanging over the edge of a presipice right now due to on field failings.

Re: Should Calland resign or be sacked? : Mon May 02, 2011 9:34 am  

Hasn't anyone else noticed how the atmosphere inside the Shay has steadily become stale over the years, the years of everyone cheering in unison have become distant memories barring Castleford, Grand Finals and a few away games, at the Shay the atmosphere has been poor, watching fax is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get. It takes its toll. Why when so many outsiders would think we should have had some great crowds and sore throats come monday morning have we become so disillusioned. I am not buying into we have no room for manouvre and i'm not buying into hitting form at the end of the year, people are paying good money, players and coaches are being paid money, every game and every time the shirt goes on should mean something special.
Look at how the Widnes and Leigh fans show so much passion and outsing us at home every year? Nobody would have ever done that at Thrum Hall or even a few years ago at the Shay, i remember when the folks of Halifax were so proud of their club and would sing for 10 mins before the kick off and ten mins after and all the way through the game, win lose or draw.
Its not entertaining anymore and the players dont look to be enjoying themselves or showing any pride.