Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:26 pm  

Enjoyed the final ep.

BA takes no prisoners does he - great to see.

In stark contrast to GH, predictably banging on again about the most competitive SL ever ....etc

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:37 am  

Not that bothered to watch this in full but thought I'd dip into some key bits. Anyone know how to access it if you've only just renewed for next year so not received any of the codes? Or is that a penalty for leaving renewal until the last minute (fair enough if so!)

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:52 pm  

If anything summed up how the club had got into the mess it has since 2015, it was GH's attempt to put yet another pile of garbage season down to how competitive SL is.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:59 pm  

I fear that all the Leeds players think that by having a tough pre-season from Arthur that they will instantly be a top team. I am concerned they believe they can just turn up next season and they will be a top four side.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:38 pm  

rugbyleague88 wrote:

I fear that all the Leeds players think that by having a tough pre-season from Arthur that they will instantly be a top team. I am concerned they believe they can just turn up next season and they will be a top four side.

Seems an illogical concern to me. Would you rather they were as unfit as they were last year? Friendlies don't tell us much, but a feature of Boxing Day was the improved and sustained line speed. Last year we simply were not well conditioned enough to execute Arthur's game plan. If they can take that one aspect into the season proper, they'll be much improved.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:59 pm  

I don't buy it either, BA is not that slack to allow that level of negligence. He knows these are steps along a journey.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:03 pm  

A tough demanding coach is not the answer for every side in every situation. However, at this moment in time at Leeds it is exactly what we need. In 5 years things could be different but right now we need fitness, strength, accountability, less errors and the basics done well. Once we've got that sorted we can look to play in a different style.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:36 am  

ArthurClues wrote:

Seems an illogical concern to me. Would you rather they were as unfit as they were last year? Friendlies don't tell us much, but a feature of Boxing Day was the improved and sustained line speed. Last year we simply were not well conditioned enough to execute Arthur's game plan. If they can take that one aspect into the season proper, they'll be much improved.

Doesn't seem illogical to me. Leeds have shown time and time again that they are a mentally weak side, so them believing the hype that having a tough pre-season will automatically make them a top side concerns me. Time will tell.

I agree that Brad Arthur is exactly what we needed at this point and that a tough pre-season is also needed, it just concerns me when some of the players think that a tough pre-season will parachute them to the top. The London games last season were a prime example of Leeds believing they could just turn up and win.

I think a change in their mindset is also needed along with improved fitness, strength, skill etc.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:05 am  

rugbyleague88 wrote:

Doesn't seem illogical to me. Leeds have shown time and time again that they are a mentally weak side, so them believing the hype that having a tough pre-season will automatically make them a top side concerns me. Time will tell.

I agree that Brad Arthur is exactly what we needed at this point and that a tough pre-season is also needed, it just concerns me when some of the players think that a tough pre-season will parachute them to the top. The London games last season were a prime example of Leeds believing they could just turn up and win.

I think a change in their mindset is also needed along with improved fitness, strength, skill etc.

But none of the players have said anything about top 4. The only message I've picked up is an admission that they need to do better, far better. There's been no hint of complacency that I have detected, maybe I've missed something.

Re: Spirit of the Rhinos : Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:29 pm  

I don't think it's been complacency exactly, more of a rabbits-in-the-headlights thing when they've encountered adversity.

As Mike Tyson famously pointed out: everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth..

It'll be interesting to see whether Arthur can remedy that. Big, big clear out if not I feel.