: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:17 pm  

SimonBarrett wrote:

How does that work??

We would not even be in the playoffs if it was not for Beckford.......he has scored 33 goals, what more do you want from a striker?? Would you prefer one that works his socks off and scores you 10 or 15???

I'm saying that he's missed 6 (i think) games 3 for 2 yellow cards backchatting the referee and 3 games for his blatent elbow from the TV Game

at least 3 of those games Leeds dropped points, had they have had Beckford playing and the threat of goals he has in him Leeds could be sitting 2nd now.

but becasue he couldnt keep it shut in the 89th minute he got himself a ban

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:21 pm  

Tony Ferrino wrote:

I'm saying that he's missed 6 (i think) games 3 for 2 yellow cards backchatting the referee and 3 games for his blatent elbow from the TV Game

at least 3 of those games Leeds dropped points, had they have had Beckford playing and the threat of goals he has in him Leeds could be sitting 2nd now.

but becasue he couldnt keep it shut in the 89th minute he got himself a ban

He got banned cos the Footbal League decided to bring a special "lets screw Leeds over" rule cos Beckford had already been booked and shouldn't have served that ban. Only got the 3 matches cos it was live on sky

Got the other red card for punching the ball away.

He'll make up for it if he scores the winning goal at Wembley

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:24 pm  

Gandy wrote:

Got the other red card for punching the ball away.

Still a silly booking to get in the 89th minute when you know your going to miss a few games for it.

was it really worth punching the ball?

had he not done that (i think Leeds did ok during that ban thought IIRC) would Leeds have been in the play-offs

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:25 pm  

Tony Ferrino wrote:

I'm saying that he's missed 6 (i think) games 3 for 2 yellow cards backchatting the referee and 3 games for his blatent elbow from the TV Game

at least 3 of those games Leeds dropped points, had they have had Beckford playing and the threat of goals he has in him Leeds could be sitting 2nd now.

but becasue he couldnt keep it shut in the 89th minute he got himself a ban

So you prefer to say he has cost us automatic due to missing a few games, rather than say he has actually given us a chance of promotion with his goals????

Quess you are a glass half empty type then!?

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:28 pm  

SimonBarrett wrote:

So you prefer to say he has cost us automatic due to missing a few games, rather than say he has actually given us a chance of promotion with his goals????

Quess you are a glass half empty type then!?

He's missed sitters, don't forget that as well. He's quite obviously the only striker this season to have missed sitters.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:30 pm  

SimonBarrett wrote:

So you prefer to say he has cost us automatic due to missing a few games, rather than say he has actually given us a chance of promotion with his goals????

Quess you are a glass half empty type then!?

I'm saying had he not elbowed a defender in the head, got a Yellow for back chat and a yellow for punching the ball away in the 89th minute he would have played in 6 more games this season and porbably have fired Leeds into Division 2

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:30 pm  

Tony Ferrino wrote:

Nope ive seen him about 7 or 8 times this season, he's missed sitters, scored crackers, been lazy cost the club an automatic spot due to the games he's missed for talking back at a ref (1 of which in the 89th minute in a game already won)

liability, i'd snap anyones fingers off at £2m

You're clueless, he's won far far more points than he's cost us.

You can't have seen any games since his last sending off either because he has totally changed his attitude he's upbeat no moaning, clapping other players and not a ounce of trouble to the officials.

2m wouldn't even buy his last turd.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:33 pm  

Tony Ferrino wrote:

Still a silly booking to get in the 89th minute when you know your going to miss a few games for it.

was it really worth punching the ball?

had he not done that (i think Leeds did ok during that ban thought IIRC) would Leeds have been in the play-offs

For the first 3 matches he got suspended we lost to Huddersfield, Hereford and beat Cheltenham

When he got the 1 match ban after we beat Crewe 3-2.

IMO we lost chance of an automatic place when he was injured during nearly all December and we won 1, drew 1 and lost 5

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:17 pm  

Loop wrote:

You're clueless, he's won far far more points than he's cost us.

i'm not debating how many he's won i'm stating Leeds could have had another 4 which would have Leeds on 85 3 behind Peterborough going into the last game of the season with a goal difference of +1

but becasue of silly pointless bookings and red cards leeds are currently in 5th

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:20 pm  

Tony Ferrino wrote:

i'm not debating how many he's won i'm stating Leeds could have had another 4 which would have Leeds on 85 3 behind Peterborough going into the last game of the season with a goal difference of +1

but becasue of silly pointless bookings and red cards leeds are currently in 5th

How about looking at other players that have consistently failed to 'step up to the mark' in Beckford's absence!