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| Quote Simmo71="Simmo71"And talk of Bodene Thompson at prop from Agar is a joke, as well a big concern.
I actually think he's a decent signing - he's mobile and puts in a shift in D.
But he is not the intimidating prop we need.
This has got to be a last resort surely.
Like everyone else, I hope Walters gets more minutes this season.
He's got some size - could see him developing from back row to prop as he matures, like JP and Moz did. Let's hope....'"
Agree with this. I reckon we could play Bodene or Martin at LF at times leaving Prior to play prop. Where my hives go into overdrive is when I hear Agar say Donaldson can fill in at prop.
We need a 4th prop leaving Holroyd to be prop 5 then with bit of luck with injuries we might get away with Bodene and Martin filling in at 13 at times, along with Smith from the bench.
With Gale missing the start of the season, wonder if we may bring in the maestro Tony Clubb, to provide both size and an entertaining off the cuff kicking game.
The squad overall looks quite thin to me but other sides like Wigan are slimming down their numbers as well. On the positive side it will mean some of the young players will get more game like Walters, Holroyd etc.
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| Seems like we have a conveyor belt of talent in the back row and centres and Wigan have a conveyor belt of talent in the front row and wings.
Maybe we could pool resources?

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| Quote Simmo71="Simmo71"Seems like we have a conveyor belt of talent in the back row and centres and Wigan have a conveyor belt of talent in the front row and wings.
Maybe we could pool resources?
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Are you suggesting a Maurice Lindsay style merger and a new logo of a rhino with his head in a pie?
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| I’m not sure why some are so determined to play anyone and everyone out of position...
It’s very simple. The only proper props we have are Zane, Oledski and Holroyd. Prior is better at LF as was Merrin before him. You can’t compete with the top sides playing converted back rowers against the likes of Walmsley.
We need at least +1 specialist prop, and then one or two more Academy products/converters available to cover injury.
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| Quote Simmo71="Simmo71"The Catalans play off game should be a wake up call.
You need 6 props - not all superstars necessarily, but you need 4 front line props for the 17 each week and 2 back ups.
We were blown away by Cats when we got a couple of injuries and that could happen regularly.
4 props including a 19 year old is suicide.
Again - we've lost 3 and only brought one in.'"
Correct. I worry that if we lose a couple of front rows to injury early doors we will get spanked and confidence will dip. Season Behind the 8 ball straight away.
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| Think we should let Sunny and Agar worry about what we need. All I know is I'm confident we'll be competing at top end next year all comps...
Saints and Wigan are really not as good as some on here seem to think......
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| Quote KaeruJim="KaeruJim"I’m not sure why some are so determined to play anyone and everyone out of position...
It’s very simple. The only proper props we have are Zane, Oledski and Holroyd. Prior is better at LF as was Merrin before him. You can’t compete with the top sides playing converted back rowers against the likes of Walmsley.
We need at least +1 specialist prop, and then one or two more Academy products/converters available to cover injury.'"
It is simple, but the club has signed one prop and let 3 out. Holroyd is the young gun academy product. There are no other young props who could play SL.
If we sign 2 more props great but realistically I can only see 1 coming in and a result, Agar will have no choice but to use Prior as a prop at times and then other players at LF. Martin captained PNG to a test win v GB from LF
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| Quote Shabino="Shabino"Think we should let Sunny and Agar worry about what we need. All I know is I'm confident we'll be competing at top end next year all comps...
Saints and Wigan are really not as good as some on here seem to think......'"
Did you watch the Grand Final only 2 months ago?
We simply can't live with that level of intensity with the current squad.
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| Think we will just get one more prop. We will likely run with two starting props (Oledzki & Tetevano) and one on the bench (new signing / Holroyd) with Prior to start at 13 and do a stint at prop during the game to allow Smith to move to 13.
That will leave us with one reserve prop (new signing / Holroyd) to allow for injuries and Prior and Thompson to cover where necessary.
Ideally, two new props would mean Prior / Thompson would not ever be required at prop. I think the 2nd prop signing would just need to be a squad filler.
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| Quote rugbyleague88="rugbyleague88"Think we will just get one more prop. We will likely run with two starting props (Oledzki & Tetevano) and one on the bench (new signing / Holroyd) with Prior to start at 13 and do a stint at prop during the game to allow Smith to move to 13.
That will leave us with one reserve prop (new signing / Holroyd) to allow for injuries and Prior and Thompson to cover where necessary.
Ideally, two new props would mean Prior / Thompson would not ever be required at prop. I think the 2nd prop signing would just need to be a squad filler.'"
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| We need to hope Tetevano gets here and settles well and is happy. With the current COVID situation there has to be some risk attached to any new overseas signing for all clubs
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| A new Prop is needed, I don't see any more coming in. With 2 decent 13s in the squad we have backup, the position is pretty interchangeable with prop these days, you very rarely see any high skill players there these days.
Also, people ruling out options as they're not an enforcer need to realise it's not 1998 any more. It's not about starting fights any more. Middles these days need to have immense workrate, durability and courage.
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| Quote The Eagle="The Eagle"A new Prop is needed, I don't see any more coming in. With 2 decent 13s in the squad we have backup, the position is pretty interchangeable with prop these days, you very rarely see any high skill players there these days.
Also, people ruling out options as they're not an enforcer need to realise it's not 1998 any more. It's not about starting fights any more. Middles these days need to have immense workrate, durability and courage.'" but mostly a good big un will run over a good little un
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| Quote Simmo71="Simmo71"Did you watch the Grand Final only 2 months ago?
We simply can't live with that level of intensity with the current squad.'"
Correct. We’d have got soundly soundly beaten. Was as good a match as I’ve seen in a long time. I think what helped those teams is that they were largely rested going into it which gave a better product on the field but that’s a whole new thread 
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| Quote doc-rhino="doc-rhino"but mostly a good big un will run over a good little un'"
The game has changed but size still does matter. By prop standards ava wasnt that big but someone of at least his size is what we need.Prior and thompson are tackle machines but we need someone who at least has a chance of flattening someone.
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| If we don’t have 4 props that can dent the defensive line each game, it will be a long season.
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| Quote Trebor1="Trebor1"Correct. We’d have got soundly soundly beaten. Was as good a match as I’ve seen in a long time. I think what helped those teams is that they were largely rested going into it which gave a better product on the field but that’s a whole new thread
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Man was I watching a diferent game? High in effort and intensity, low in quality.
We were badly beat up with injuries back end of last year, worse than anyone else. Think what's why we went out so tamely...
If we get another prop we'll have nothing to fear next year, and can mix it up with anyone......
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| Quote Shabino="Shabino"Man was I watching a diferent game? High in effort and intensity, low in quality.
We were badly beat up with injuries back end of last year, worse than anyone else. Think what's why we went out so tamely...
If we get another prop we'll have nothing to fear next year, and can mix it up with anyone......'"
Each to own opinion bud but think you’re in minority if you think last years GF was low in quality. But hey ho
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| Quote Trebor1="Trebor1"Each to own opinion bud but think you’re in minority if you think last years GF was low in quality. But hey ho'"
Don't believe all the hype from the commentators. They had to say the GF s the b'z and e'z this year more than ever......
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| Quote Simmo71="Simmo71"And talk of Bodene Thompson at prop from Agar is a joke, as well a big concern.
I actually think he's a decent signing - he's mobile and puts in a shift in D.
But he is not the intimidating prop we need.
This has got to be a last resort surely.
Like everyone else, I hope Walters gets more minutes this season.
He's got some size - could see him developing from back row to prop as he matures, like JP and Moz did. Let's hope....'" At nearly 17 stone I'm sure Thompson can fill in at prop if needed.
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| Quote Shabino="Shabino"Don't believe all the hype from the commentators. They had to say the GF s the b'z and e'z this year more than ever......'"
The game had intensity, but wasn't the most entertaining watch as a neutral. St Helens spent the entire 2nd half in wigans 20 without ever really testing the try line.
I did think it was comical all of the Sky crew trying to sell it as the 'greatest grand final ever.' Maybe for Saints fans, but just no.
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| Quote Trebor1="Trebor1"Each to own opinion bud but think you’re in minority if you think last years GF was low in quality. But hey ho'"
Have to agree it was a magnificent game of RL for 80 mins.
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| Quote fanstanningley="fanstanningley"At nearly 17 stone I'm sure Thompson can fill in at prop if needed.'"
Didnt realise he was that big.If he can perform nearly as well as prior he could prove to be an astute signing.
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| Quote Shabino="Shabino"Don't believe all the hype from the commentators. They had to say the GF s the b'z and e'z this year more than ever......'"
Don’t worry I didn’t. I’ve watched the game long enough to know when it’s high quality
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| Quote Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Have to agree it was a magnificent game of RL for 80 mins.'"
Absolutely. Such a shame no fans in the ground to witness it. Would have been electric
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