Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:12 pm  

Like many before I never saw Lewis Jones so for me John Holmes has to be the best individual half back I've seen.

Back in the day we were fortunate to have a great partnership in Seabourne and Shoebottom and a decent partnership in Hepworth and Hardisty.

I think we have been blessed with many very good outside halves over the years but it's hard to think of a really top class pairing in recent history although on reflection Burrow and Maguire weren't too shabby when both were at their best.

Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:54 pm  

In years to come both these will be reveared

Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:29 pm  

Never saw Mick Shoebottom play but both he and Chris Sanderson deserve mention for giving everything.

Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:44 pm  

Never saw Jones sadly. So my top 5...

Holmes
Shoebottom
Harris
Schoey
Mcguire

Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:30 pm  

'Best' is always so tricky as it means different things to different people.

It will be very hard for any player let alone SO to surpass what Sinny has done and meant to the team. By no means has he been the most creative or exciting 6 but my god did he know how to move the team around and control a game.

Harris had more natural talent than I have seen in a player for a very long time and I always felt he only really showed a small % of what he was capable of. The problem was that nobody else was anywhere near his level so he looked unpredictable at times and took so much on himself.

As mentioned, cliff Lyons had all the makings, and showed it in Oz, of a truly great SO. He would have been fantastic in the team we have had for the last decade rather than the one he actually played in for us.

The list goes on but for me, and the history books, Sinny edges every other out.

Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:38 am  

Fallon wrote:

'Best' is always so tricky as it means different things to different people.

It will be very hard for any player let alone SO to surpass what Sinny has done and meant to the team. By no means has he been the most creative or exciting 6 but my god did he know how to move the team around and control a game.

Harris had more natural talent than I have seen in a player for a very long time and I always felt he only really showed a small % of what he was capable of. The problem was that nobody else was anywhere near his level so he looked unpredictable at times and took so much on himself.

As mentioned, cliff Lyons had all the makings, and showed it in Oz, of a truly great SO. He would have been fantastic in the team we have had for the last decade rather than the one he actually played in for us.

The list goes on but for me, and the history books, Sinny edges every other out.

Surely Sinny's best days were at loose forward though? (for club at least)

Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:37 am  

The Issue for me regarding Schofield is that when you needed him to put in a big performance in a big game he never showed up. The mark of a truly great player is their ability to crank things up when really needed Schofield never did in a big game for Leeds

Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:29 am  

leedsnsouths wrote:

Surely Sinny's best days were at loose forward though? (for club at least)

I'm never great at remembering dates like some on here but Sinny was our 6 for at least the last 5 years of his career and it's no coincidence how successful we were for me.

Whether that was his best position, or the best position for the team is a different debate.

Like I say, 'best' is hard to define but for me based on players I have watched live over a reasonable period Sinny made the biggest and most consistent contribution as a 6.

Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:54 am  

Fallon wrote:

I'm never great at remembering dates like some on here but Sinny was our 6 for at least the last 5 years of his career and it's no coincidence how successful we were for me.

Whether that was his best position, or the best position for the team is a different debate.

Like I say, 'best' is hard to define but for me based on players I have watched live over a reasonable period Sinny made the biggest and most consistent contribution as a 6.

he played 6 in the 2004 grand final so has alternated between both roles

Re: Nostalgic | Best Leeds Half Back : Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:26 pm  

Mick Shoebottom, he had everything. RIP Shoey