Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:21 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Ooh, sounds like Matty Smith.

Apart from the 'very good' bit

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:25 pm  

Fallon wrote:

Define poor?

Wakefield have been relegation/mid table fodder for decades. Hull have been inconsistent for years. His win % at hull was 45% and Radford's is 51%, really not that much difference.

A really really top coach can have a great influence on a team but they are few and far between and none are knocking on our door.

The important part of the equation is a talented squad with some leaders thrown in. The coach is important sure, but secondary.

I think you need a good coach to win stuff (McDermott
had a great track record here of course). But you can’t polish a poo and Wayne Bennett would struggle with some of our squad.
If we have good enough players and balance in the team, relegation should never be a danger for a club the size of Leeds.
It’s chicken and egg but in the absence of an outstanding coach candidate Leeds are doing what they can with the playing staff.
All coaches have a shelf life ultimately - great rarely lasts.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:28 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I think you need a good coach to win stuff (McDermott
had a great track record here of course). But you can’t polish a poo and Wayne Bennett would struggle with some of our squad.
If we have good enough players and balance in the team, relegation should never be a danger for a club the size of Leeds.
It’s chicken and egg but in the absence of an outstanding coach candidate Leeds are doing what they can with the playing staff.
All coaches have a shelf life ultimately - great rarely lasts.

McDermott was not a great coach (in my view) but he had an incredibly talented and driven group of players. That's my point.

If you have Agar, Furner, hell even Lowe's the squad that McD had and you would still have won silverware.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:29 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

That's not even funny & if that turns out to be the case Sinfield deserves sacking on the spot.

Yeah, id be absolutely furious if Agar got it full time.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:39 pm  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

Yeah, id be absolutely furious if Agar got it full time.

Looks like you should start saving up your fury then.

I have to say (and this isn't aimed specifically at matts) the level of negativity seems over the top. How's about we actually give the club a bit of support and those before we slate them.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:51 pm  

Fallon wrote:

Looks like you should start saving up your fury then.

I have to say (and this isn't aimed specifically at matts) the level of negativity seems over the top. How's about we actually give the club a bit of support and those before we slate them.

Id hope it isnt specificaly aimed at me. Im very happy with the moves to the squad we'v made, every one of them,..watkins, lunt and lui...theres plenty of posts in various threads stating this if you botherd to look before taring people with a brush. I would not however be happy with agar as permenent coach, if you want to call that negative, good for you, your wrong, its called having an opinion...a valid one based on agars career to date.

Whats saving up my fury even mean? If he gets it, il be furiius, no need to store it. Then il hope he proves me wrong.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:06 pm  

I don’t really want Agar as the coach going forward, however I do not think bringing in a coach for the rest of this season will do anyone any good at all, theres been a shed load of upheaval this year I don’t think adding to it by getting a new coach in at this point is the right thing to do.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:12 pm  

christopher wrote:

I don’t really want Agar as the coach going forward, however I do not think bringing in a coach for the rest of this season will do anyone any good at all, theres been a shed load of upheaval this year I don’t think adding to it by getting a new coach in at this point is the right thing to do.

Agreed. Id want any new coach coming in to have a clean slate and full pre season to start from.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:09 pm  

Fallon wrote:

Define poor?

Wakefield have been relegation/mid table fodder for decades. Hull have been inconsistent for years. His win % at hull was 45% and Radford's is 51%, really not that much difference.

A really really top coach can have a great influence on a team but they are few and far between and none are knocking on our door.

The important part of the equation is a talented squad with some leaders thrown in. The coach is important sure, but secondary.

Agar was awful. The rugby we played under him mirrored his dour persona. Had he not been buddies with the hetheringtons hed ha e lasted a couple if years at most.

I'm surprised that Danny ward isnt being mentioned. Hes getting far more out of far less than agar and a former team mate of sinfield. Unless hes another former team mate who doesn't get on with sinfield

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:13 pm  

christopher wrote:

I don’t really want Agar as the coach going forward, however I do not think bringing in a coach for the rest of this season will do anyone any good at all, theres been a shed load of upheaval this year I don’t think adding to it by getting a new coach in at this point is the right thing to do.

Surely you want next years coach to be involved in recruitment and preparation for next year? Not to mention the benefit of getting to know the players ready to hit the ground running next year? Or would that take away what sinfield sees himself doing?

As an outsider, Leeds look really poorly coached and seem to have little in the way of game plan or cohesion which is the minimum you should expect with ball in hand