Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:11 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

It’s impossible to say really unless you were “in the bubble”. McD brought great success to Leeds for a long time. You can argue it was an alignment of stars but he must have been one of them.

I guess though that as much as people’s strengths show over time, so do their weaknesses and McD is also pretty arrogant and opinionated. I liked him but I know others didn’t.

One thing for sure at Leeds is that post McD the culture will have been all over the place, and it will still be changing now. Whatever Brian believed in was in the DNA of Leeds by that point in his tenure; change that and you create some turmoil until a new tribe forms.

Oh don't get me wrong I'm far from one the McDermott 'bashers' in fact I was sticking up for him pretty much right up until the end but then I think it was an away game at Wigan and you could tell that something wasn't right at all within the club/squad and something had to change.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:19 pm  

Him wrote:

I agree, clearly Sinfield and McDermott didn’t see eye to eye by the end and I don’t think the blame for that is entirely one sided.
However during McDermott’s tenure recruitment was the ultimate responsibility of Hetherington. I’m not saying other things weren’t wrong but GH has to take equal blame at least for the “club being rotten”.

Now of course that responsibility is on Sinfield. I think he’s doing a good job so far personally. If we have people with the wrong mindset or attitudes then let’s get rid where we can. What won us the numerous trophies and the treble was skill combined with attitude.

It wasnt all down to Hetherington i remember McD giving the go ahead to sign Krasniqi withhis agent but when he found out they had rung GH to discuss terms before he'd spoke to GH he pulled the plug , he also cut Cross Senior & Ali whilst giving the ok for Vickery & Falloon.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:38 pm  

The biggest crime of the MCD era is not any individual player decisions but the lack of succession planning. I don't know whose fault that is but it was criminal and now we are paying the price.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:18 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

It wasnt all down to Hetherington i remember McD giving the go ahead to sign Krasniqi withhis agent but when he found out they had rung GH to discuss terms before he'd spoke to GH he pulled the plug , he also cut Cross Senior & Ali whilst giving the ok for Vickery & Falloon.

None of which is signed off without Hetherington’s ok.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:28 pm  

Mcdermott always came across as arrogant and just plain bloody rude most of the time. As for Singleton and his insinuations he has been very lucky getting a gig at Toronto, when he is plainly championship standard and always has been

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:12 pm  

a lot of very the senior players interviewed in as good as it gets weren't gushing in there praise of McDermott.
I suspect he was a good coach with a fantastic group of players. no more than that

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:35 pm  

BM did a good job with a good team. It just seems that at some stage he jumped the shark and started believing he was some kind of uber coach, and he never seemed to realise what a mess we were in.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:51 pm  

Yes let’s blame McDermott for everything. Not here to defend himself anymore either!
Re Singo, I wish him best of luck. Was awesome back end 2017 and there’s no way we’d have got past Hull in that semi playoff game without him.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:30 pm  

chapylad wrote:

Should be tasty when we play Toronto then.
He gives me the impression that he can be a bit of a thug with sly off the ball hits and the like.
I`m sure there`s a good player in there and a change of clubs might well bring out the best in him.

Still remember a game against wakie few year back when he did an over the top celebration and patted a young wakie player on the back. Intevitably starting a tussle. When wakie scored Ali jumped on his back in a more over the top celebration

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:16 pm  

marathonman wrote:

Mcdermott always came across as arrogant and just plain bloody rude most of the time. As for Singleton and his insinuations he has been very lucky getting a gig at Toronto, when he is plainly championship standard and always has been

I rarely saw him as rude or arrogant. Either in his tv interviews or anywhere else. I think that’s a label that’s been attached to him without any merit.