Re: James Segeyaro : Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:05 pm  

William Eve wrote:

What has recent got to do with it?

The current CEO has been in charge since 1996, so Mears treatment is relevant.

I've already stated earlier that Leeds have a reputation for being malevolent, hostile, litigious, towards players who the club (The CEO) no longer see eye to eye with.

Far more malevolent, hostile and litigious than any other club I'm aware of.

Here's others who the club have treated poorly during the tenure of current management... Jamie Thackray, Ben Cross, Darrell Griffin, Paul Sterling, Nick Scruton, Paul McShane, Danny Ward, Lee Jackson, Mark Calderwood, Liam Hood.

I get it.

You don't like the CEO or the club being criticised.

This is a discussion forum with lots of differing views.

Get used to it.

Recent has everything to do with it when you state " Currently by the CEO and the Coach" and the current coach was no where near Leeds back in 2001.

On your new list of players:

Calderwood left for more money and to play full back ( he Can't)
Danny Ward Several issues and warnings for behavior and drink driving
Paul Sterling Treated badly by the coach of the time Dean Lance.... Dean Lance SACKED by the CEO
Ben Cross Was a flop and did not get into the team, asked for a release which was granted
Lee Jackson Left in 2000 with 12 months contract remaining to return to Hull on a two year deal again long before BM was coach
Darrell Griffin Could not get in team and sent to Salford on loan, should not have done the Dirty on Saints after agreeing a verbal deal with them.
Jamie Thackray Another player who did not make the grade and shipped out to Doncaster and Hull

So which of these players have suffered from "malevolent, hostile, litigious, actions by GH / BM.

Criticism of the club is / can be justified at times however your constant whine is boring and yes a discussion board so other peoples views also count.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:40 am  

illy wrote:

Recent has everything to do with it when you state " Currently by the CEO and the Coach" and the current coach was no where near Leeds back in 2001.

On your new list of players:

Calderwood left for more money and to play full back ( he Can't)
Danny Ward Several issues and warnings for behavior and drink driving
Paul Sterling Treated badly by the coach of the time Dean Lance.... Dean Lance SACKED by the CEO
Ben Cross Was a flop and did not get into the team, asked for a release which was granted
Lee Jackson Left in 2000 with 12 months contract remaining to return to Hull on a two year deal again long before BM was coach
Darrell Griffin Could not get in team and sent to Salford on loan, should not have done the Dirty on Saints after agreeing a verbal deal with them.
Jamie Thackray Another player who did not make the grade and shipped out to Doncaster and Hull

So which of these players have suffered from "malevolent, hostile, litigious, actions by GH / BM.

Criticism of the club is / can be justified at times however your constant whine is boring and yes a discussion board so other peoples views also count.

You overlooked two players who the club treated appallingly - Chev Walker and Ryan Bailey. Neither of those needed to end up in prison if the club had paid for the appropriate quality of legal advice. Sadly the club left them out to dry and into youth custody/prison.

Ryan Sheridan and Andy Hay two from many years ago!!

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:06 am  

paul sterling was disliked by the players and they didn't want him there.
danny ward had numerous warnings for drinking.
Calderwood thought the grass was greener and wanted to go.
Thackray was a waste of space, addicted to fruit machines and liked a drink at the wrong time

the only relevant one on the list is liam hood

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:05 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You overlooked two players who the club treated appallingly - Chev Walker and Ryan Bailey. Neither of those needed to end up in prison if the club had paid for the appropriate quality of legal advice. Sadly the club left them out to dry and into youth custody/prison.

Ryan Sheridan and Andy Hay two from many years ago!!

So it's GH's fault that two people broke the law and got themselves jailed.

Anything else we want to blame GH and the club for? Princess Diana's death maybe? The stock market crash of 1929? Shergar's disappearance?

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:26 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

So it's GH's fault that two people broke the law and got themselves jailed.

Anything else we want to blame GH and the club for? Princess Diana's death maybe? The stock market crash of 1929? Shergar's disappearance?

I too find it difficult to understand why it would ever be the clubs responsibility to fund legal advice for two of their employees who have allegedly committed an offence out of work time...

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:34 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

I too find it difficult to understand why it would ever be the clubs responsibility to fund legal advice for two of their employees who have allegedly committed an offence out of work time...

I'm certain that if the majority on here got sent to prison for a drunken brawl they wouldn't have a job when they got out nevermind the CEO turning up to court as a character witness and releasing a statement of support after the guilty verdict.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:39 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

I too find it difficult to understand why it would ever be the clubs responsibility to fund legal advice for two of their employees who have allegedly committed an offence out of work time...

Its the club's job to get these young guys earning not a lot the best advice and representation - something Leeds failed to achieve. If you speak to Chev - who I think is a pretty level headed down to earth guy - he really resents the way the club virtually washed their hands of them. Yes the let them play on after but that was only to stop other clubs getting their hands on them.

Let's compare the actions of Leeds Utd with Bowyer and Woodgate and GH and Walker and Bailey.

It could argued that what Bowyer and Woodgate did was far worse - yet guess what they walk free why do you think that was?

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:42 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

So it's GH's fault that two people broke the law and got themselves jailed.

Anything else we want to blame GH and the club for? Princess Diana's death maybe? The stock market crash of 1929? Shergar's disappearance?

I appreciate it was well before your short time as a supporter but the club could have down significantly more than they did.

How they ended up in prison for something that goes on numerous time in the centre of Leeds every weekend defies belief.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:51 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Let's compare the actions of Leeds Utd with Bowyer and Woodgate and GH and Walker and Bailey.

It could argued that what Bowyer and Woodgate did was far worse - yet guess what they walk free why do you think that was?

It probably was far worse i agree. I also don't agree they should have defended them either. As WF Rhino says, in any other walk of life your employer would not be willing to provide legal aid out of work time, especially drunken disorderly on the lash with your mates.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:57 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You overlooked two players

No he didn't, he was responding (brilliantly) to William's straw grasper of a post.