Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon May 11, 2015 9:08 am  

I don't get this idea of players "holding back" for the Cup game. If you're picked and getting (very well) paid to put on a shirt, you should be busting a gut to deliver your best available performance every week.

If you're picking and choosing when to turn it on, you should be out the door.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon May 11, 2015 9:39 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

I don't get this idea of players "holding back" for the Cup game. If you're picked and getting (very well) paid to put on a shirt, you should be busting a gut to deliver your best available performance every week.

If you're picking and choosing when to turn it on, you should be out the door.

We might be playing half the Academy on Saturday then Andy.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue May 12, 2015 4:55 pm  

It has been said repeatedly, but I'll say it again.

I dont believe McD has the foggiest what his best team is. Which quite frankly is pretty damming of a head coach.

No players should need resting at this point in the season. You can't blame the cup as we've been rubbish since spanking saints.

How can players play as a team when they are always having different players either side of them?

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue May 12, 2015 6:05 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

I don't get this idea of players "holding back" for the Cup game. If you're picked and getting (very well) paid to put on a shirt, you should be busting a gut to deliver your best available performance every week.

If you're picking and choosing when to turn it on, you should be out the door.

It's not a case of "holding back" per say but come on, if you watch team sports you know teams have often taken their eye of the ball in the league when cup matches have come around. Wigan basically handed the 2013 LLS to Hudds once they got to the Semis of the cup. Warrington still had plenty of time to make the top 8 in 2009 but failed to do so but did win the CC. In football, teams that have floated around the bottom of the league have made finals, some even winning despite being relegated like Birimingham and Wigan. Both Liverpool and Chelsea won the Champions League despite finishing outside the top 4.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed May 13, 2015 5:32 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

It's not a case of "holding back" per say but come on, if you watch team sports you know teams have often taken their eye of the ball in the league when cup matches have come around. Wigan basically handed the 2013 LLS to Hudds once they got to the Semis of the cup. Warrington still had plenty of time to make the top 8 in 2009 but failed to do so but did win the CC. In football, teams that have floated around the bottom of the league have made finals, some even winning despite being relegated like Birimingham and Wigan. Both Liverpool and Chelsea won the Champions League despite finishing outside the top 4.

The comparison with football is tricky as they often have midweek games and generally play more games than rl and do a lot more travelling, especially for European games, albeit it has a less physical involvement.

Your rl comparisons are also aimed at the latter stages of the cup which by proxy is also into the second half of the season. Neither apply to our game on Saturday. Quote honestly, if top level professional players can't manage one game a week little more than 12 weeks into the season then we have problems.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed May 13, 2015 8:15 am  

Fallon wrote:

Quote honestly, if top level professional players can't manage one game a week little more than 12 weeks into the season then we have problems.

We have problems. And by we I mean the sport of Rugby League.

The players are too big and too strong.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed May 13, 2015 3:04 pm  

Our's do not seem too big or strong at the moment

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed May 13, 2015 3:10 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Our's do not seem too big or strong at the moment

I know, at this rate we might only finish 2nd.

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed May 13, 2015 6:28 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

I know, at this rate we might only finish 2nd.

Thanks to the ridiculously convoluted and crowded fixture calendar, we're not even half way through the regular season yet.

Leeds still have Wigan to play three times, Saints twice, Huddersfield and Warrington once each. On current form, would you back them to win any of those?

Re: For the love of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed May 13, 2015 6:58 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Thanks to the ridiculously convoluted and crowded fixture calendar, we're not even half way through the regular season yet.

Leeds still have Wigan to play three times, Saints twice, Huddersfield and Warrington once each. On current form, would you back them to win any of those?

As I said wait until the split and they have to play the top teams week in week out.