Referees in 2009 : Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:36 am  

Are much improved and far better than in recent seasons. It does Leeds fans no credit to whine about referees when it smacks of sour grapes and a lack of knowledge. I am not a Bradford supporter.

Re: Referees in 2009 : Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:51 am  

sundayroast wrote:

Are much improved and far better than in recent seasons. It does Leeds fans no credit to whine about referees when it smacks of sour grapes and a lack of knowledge. I am not a Bradford supporter.

I know your the Sunday Roast on the menu.

Re: Referees in 2009 : Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:41 am  

sundayroast wrote:

Are much improved and far better than in recent seasons. It does Leeds fans no credit to whine about referees when it smacks of sour grapes and a lack of knowledge. I am not a Bradford supporter.

Why when so many of many teams disagree with that have you put it, are you looking for people to rip you apart? Anyway i'm not goin to waste my time on you, trying to wind people up.

Re: Referees in 2009 : Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:53 am  

sundayroast wrote:

Are much improved and far better than in recent seasons. It does Leeds fans no credit to whine about referees when it smacks of sour grapes and a lack of knowledge. I am not a Bradford supporter.

It's not just leeds moaning about the ref's, everyone you speak to is having a good old moan!!

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:02 pm  

Supporters are irrational. Their views are always clouded by whether or not their team won or lost. I normally consider Leeds supporters to be fairer more knowledgeable than supporters from many other Yorkshire clubs. However, the OTT hysterical reaction to a defeat is embarrassing for Leeds supporters and one would hope the 20 years referee is no longer a referee.

The 2 referee NRL system is the best solution but in 2009 we have not seen masses of penalties following an edict from the RFl and the contests between defence and attack is now more balanced. When the referee makes it too easy for the attack you get a very low skill scooting game and we paid the price for that at the WorldCup.

I cannot understand Leeds fans. St Helens and Leeds will finish as the top 2. They have no need to worry or panic.

For the benefit of 20 years wasted as a referee and Leeds fans;

Rugby League
Laws of the Game
Section 14

3. An off side player is placed onside if:
(a) an opponent moves ten metres or more with the ball.
(b) an opponent touches the ball without retaining it.
(c) one of his own team in possession of the ball runs in front of him.
(d) one of his own team kicks or knocks the ball forward and takes up a position in front of him in the field of play.
(e) he retires behind the point where the ball was last touched by one of his own team.

This must be read with Note 3, which reads:
Quote:
Players who are out of play at a play-the-ball, a scrum, a kick off or drop-out or a free kick are not put “on side” in the manner described in para 3 above.

Laws of the Game
Section 2: Glossary

PASS is a throw of the ball from one player to another

KNOCK ON means to knock the ball towards the opponents' dead ball line with hand or arm, while playing at the ball.

Regarding the disallowed Leeds try; the pass was fine, it was the touch from Jamie Jones Buchanon that went forward, hence the VR can adjudicate.

Re: Referees in 2009 : Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:07 pm  

rhinobabe wrote:

everyone you speak to is having a good old moan!!

Only the losing side.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Referees in 2009 : Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:14 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

Only the losing side.

Not all.

But most.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:27 pm  

I think the idea, as in aus, to have 2 refs is a good idea but things need to be addressed before this. IMO the inconsistancy in our refs is getting worse and that is what drives me as a fan. One week penalised like mad for offside next week lienient, 2 feet behind the line, laying on, the list goes on with last nights effort illustrating this, i mean how many times will the burrow no try senario be talked about again? Probably about as many times as we have up to now. We also seem to be spending time looking for reasons not to give the try. As much as union bores me when they go to the vr the ref asks is there any reason not to give this try, never heard that from our refs. We like to think of our game as fast flowing and entertaining but i find nothing entertaining in watching replay after replay of the same think trying to find an excuse not to give a try. Its very negative reffing and i think an overhaul of the reffing system from top to bottom should be one of the games highest priorities. Refs have a very difficult job to do and do get a lot of stick but they hardly help their own cause with inconsistancy the show week in week out.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:29 pm  

Austin 3:16 wrote:

I think the idea, as in aus, to have 2 refs is a good idea

It works perfectly, nut not enough money in the English game.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:30 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

It works perfectly, nut not enough money in the English game.

Not enough consistant refs in the english game.