Anyway to counter balance the negativity out a bit, Harry Newman and Jack Walker shortlisted for SL young player of the year

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/49634416

Great news, a couple of shining lights emerging from the gloom. I think Trueman will probably win it, but good to have a couple at least getting the recognition.

Hasn't Trueman been very hit and miss this season, I know a lot of car fans haven't been overly impressed.

Not having a go at him or anything as he's a great prospect.

Other than the Hull game, where granted he was outstanding, he has been quiet. However there is far more on his shoulders than the others.

Smithies by a country mile.

Smithies hasn’t played nearly every game though, he should by rights get it, but I think Trueman takes it.

Trueman should be the GB half, easily the best young player in Super League.

Bit too early i would say. I would pick him for the squad for sure and integrate him. Think we need to see him consistently 7-8/10 in SL before that big step up against Kiwis and Aussies though.

I would have liked us to have had a real stab at enticing him to Leeds but I don’t think Cas would have entertained it

Offering £500k isn't a real stab?