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Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:18 pm  
Well season over all the talk of potential title challenge and silverware, now seems ludicrous.
Unfortunately we are now once again just trying to not finish bottom, then rebuild for next year full squad overall and then a transition season in 2023..

Depressing.
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Re: Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:21 pm  
Yup, season over, after just weeks. Well done to all involved.

Hetherington shoulders most of the blame.
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Re: Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:29 pm  
Stop hiring coaches because they were good players and start hiring coaches that are known for being good coaches. Or we could just create the ultimate jobs for the boys coaching team and continue going nowhere.

Agar director of rugby
JJB Manager
Joe Vickery assistant coach
Mitch Achurch assistant to the regional manager
Ian Kirke fitness coach
Sean Long hair and tattoos coach

Danny McGuire was a great player for us so just shove him in somewhere too. I dunno if he's a good coach but who cares.
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Re: Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:29 pm  
The season is far from over. We are in a battle to stay up based on performances so far this season.
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Re: Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:35 pm  
The Magic Rat wrote:
The season is far from over. We are in a battle to stay up based on performances so far this season.


Again?

This happened 6 f*cking seasons ago. The club is a shambles.
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Re: Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:44 pm  
I'd like us to get a new top quality coach in shortly, and start the recruitment for next year now, with signings being announced to show the club is moving forwards. We have some decent players, but have been poorly coached for years. A good coach could make a lot with what we have, but some players like Thompson, Briscoe, Sutcliffe need moving on.
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Re: Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:50 pm  
The season is not over, but what happens in the next few weeks will determine if the slump can be ended before this season finishes or if it will drag on into next year. We need to get the coaching side straightened out quickly, throughout the club not just Head Coach, or we will continue to stumble from disaster to disaster.

It’s clear that we tried to continue the culture from the goldens by recruiting them into other positions they’re I’ll suited to, and it’s failed badly. We can either continue down this path, with no realistic sign that things will change, or we can employ experienced professionals to raise us from the current slumber. The quality of personnel in all parts of the club must be significantly improved or we might find that into only this season is over, but others will be before they even begin
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Re: Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:51 pm  
The Eagle wrote:
I'd like us to get a new top quality coach in shortly, and start the recruitment for next year now, with signings being announced to show the club is moving forwards. We have some decent players, but have been poorly coached for years. A good coach could make a lot with what we have, but some players like Thompson, Briscoe, Sutcliffe need moving on.


The appetite has gone. Hetherington should have been busting a gut to find a top coach since we sacked Furner and Caddick should now be kicking his backside to do that butI don’t believe either are doing anything of the sort. We have had 3 years since Furner, it’s abysmal.
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Re: Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:05 pm  
Sinfield said the culture was rotten when he came in. What does that say about where it is now. This is incomprehensibly inept in every department.
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Re: Season over : Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:11 pm  
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The season is not over, but what happens in the next few weeks will determine if the slump can be ended before this season finishes or if it will drag on into next year. We need to get the coaching side straightened out quickly, throughout the club not just Head Coach, or we will continue to stumble from disaster to disaster.

It’s clear that we tried to continue the culture from the goldens by recruiting them into other positions they’re I’ll suited to, and it’s failed badly. We can either continue down this path, with no realistic sign that things will change, or we can employ experienced professionals to raise us from the current slumber. The quality of personnel in all parts of the club must be significantly improved or we might find that into only this season is over, but others will be before they even begin


There are 3 models to replace influential leaders. Order affirmer, Order creator, or Order Shatterer. Whilst we weren't specifically replacing one particular leader, in terms of a head coach, I think it's relevant in the context of moving on from our 'golden era'. We've tried to go down the 'order affirmer' route, keeping remnants of the golden era under the guise of ''continuing on the culture'' as you mentioned. Liverpool were very successful with this model in the 70's and 80's, consistently replacing their figurehead with a new one nurtured within the system - Shankly, Paisley, Dalglish, etc, the affirmers. The problem is, this model was tremendously successful because of the squad replenishment that took place, there was always a fresh squad ready for the new guy. The most obvious example of an order shatterer would be Clough taking over from Revie at Leeds united.

That brings us to the rhinos, by the end, the squad was running on fumes, it was done. We'd actually stagnated years earlier before it become truly apparent, but big game players, running on fumes carried the team despite poor league finishes and poor week-in-week-out form. We've made a lame attempt to go down the order affirmer route, Sinfield came in as DoR, Furner - a former grand final winner with us, was installed as
as head coach.

Not all of this exactly fits, but you get the general idea. We needed an 'Order creator' model, we didn't want to ''shatter'' (start from scratch) but instead tweak and go in a new direction. We've failed. We're in the cycle of failure now. 6 seasons will become 8, 8 will then become 10, and then you're looking at a decade without a title, nearly one third of what we had before 2004.
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