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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:05 pm  
I think for your average Bradford fan on the street, this new board are viewed as suits sitting at the top table, the same as the last regime, and the regime before that, and the regime before that.

A lot of work needs doing to regain the fans trust in the correct way.
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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:29 pm  
IF the RFL said that Wakey would be relegated if they went into administration, then it would be preferential treatment to Bradford.

However, I'm not certain we can take the word of one man at a supporters meeting. Lots gets said at supporters meetings as I'm sure some Bradford supporters can confirm, ends up being total and utter Bull (no pun intended).

I do think the question should be raised to the RFL where Wakey threatened with relegation and if so why???


I can only think that there are 2 possible outcomes.

1. They were not threatened with relegation and this is a story that has been put out there without any confirmation from the other side.

2. Wakey were going to go into Administration to avoid paying HMRC which the RFL has taken a tough line on. The difference here seems to be that the new company has agreed to work with creditors (I would assume this means agreed to pay the creditors including HMRC).

However I do think the operational rules should clearly state these penalties and from what I have read today they do not.
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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:08 pm  
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How utterly arrogant of the Bradford Bulls directors:

a) "we're not going to pay a penny" (to the major creditor) and

b) we're not going to sell ANY of our first team squad.

For a club that's just gone into Administration (again), I can't think of a more clear cut case for a 6 point deduction.


Don't know what you are saying my friend> The administration or the calling in of the insolvency practitioner, as I dont know which. Was reported by a RFL spokesperson that this was the only course of action to resolve the impasse, in this situation that the proposed new owners found themselves faced with. For example how could the new incumbents pat any wages or sign any cheques to suppliers if they weren't the owners or appointed directors by the owner or major shareholders in the business ?

Personally I don't know where you had the information that they (new owners) were not paying anything for the club, which would be what that statement ,you rely on, would imply.

I think the Newco, have had to purchase the club for possibly an undisclosed sum to the administrator, which in turn would be added to the administrators overall financial pot, to pay off all the debts left by the previous owner.
What is left for secured or unsecured creditors is not known by anyone except the practitioner and the defunct company of OK Bulls Ltd.

Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd was set up last year as a non trading company at that time, so no problem there.

As for not selling Players, well again what are you saying?
If a club has managed to fund the wages of it's only real asset, ie Playing Staff, just what has that got to do with you, it is up to them how it pans out. So suggest you butt out on that one! They have said that arrangements are in force to deal with all the creditors, so what more do you wish for?

As for the points deduction. that's all you want is it not. you dont know why, you just do, bit childish really aren't you?
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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:27 pm  
steadygetyerboots-on wrote:
As I've stated elsewhere; MC has been unusually quiet since this development and really owes it to Wakefield fans to publicly clarify the point you've made. It's secrecy that is causing a lot of the ill feeling between fans so come on MC lets have a statement.


Absolutely. It sounds so odd to me but if he was exaggerating ever so slightly for his audience he's not really in a position to retract now is he.
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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:48 pm  
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As I've stated elsewhere; MC has been unusually quiet since this development and really owes it to Wakefield fans to publicly clarify the point you've made. It's secrecy that is causing a lot of the ill feeling between fans so come on MC lets have a statement.

MC got enough problems just lately with the reduction in stadium capacity with taking on bitching about some club that has fallen from stardom and is now on the verge of extinction.

he's fast learning to just get on with what's in front of him rather than behind him, the clubs aim is to improve on last seasons position a deal with each and every problem as they arrive
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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:15 pm  
Interesting what Wakey were told. I'm especially impressed how the RFL convened a meeting and reached a decision all during the course of a phone call. It's bollox, of course, because the whole point of the principles of deductions etc is to stop clubs using admin as a means to shaft all their creditors. If the Bulls do not shaft their creditors, then on what basis should they face points deduction?
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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:22 pm  
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MC got enough problems just lately with the reduction in stadium capacity with taking on bitching about some club that has fallen from stardom and is now on the verge of extinction.

he's fast learning to just get on with what's in front of him rather than behind him, the clubs aim is to improve on last seasons position a deal with each and every problem as they arrive


So, let me get this right?

The main reason so many Wakey fans have gone apoplectic (again) over Bulls situation, is because your gaffer told you that the RFL had said if you go into administration you get relegated? Right?

So, had he NOT told you that, you'd have had much less reason to all be having such hissy fits, right?

Yet, when someone has the temerity to question whether the RFL actually said what your gaffer said they said, the thing that has given you lot the massive excuse to outpour so much vitriol at Bradford, it is a matter of no great importance?

I think our readers can draw the proper conclusion from that. Would be a real shame if he had rolled you lot. I'm sure he would not have done that though?
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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:29 pm  
Jesus wept. I just wish that they'd all get on with it and we can concentrate on the Rugby....there'll be time enough to worry about points deductions and conspiracy theories once you're in the Championship (with us) next year :SUBMISSION:

BTW, in case you were in any doubt, I blame Ryan Whitcut for a lot of this.......I reckon he might have been a bit dodgy :CURTAIN:
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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:48 pm  
I have a theory which may be totally incorrect but do you not reckon, the RFL dock bradford points for admin and also wakey for having an unfit stadium, and by a badgers pubic hair London survive above both of the teams? Just thought the other day, Whitehaven I am sure where not allowed into SL ages ago when they kept winning the championship as their ground was not up to SL standard.
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Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:57 pm  
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Bitter, Bitter man....
I find it hard to argue about that.
Let us not forget however that Wakey as one example had to sell everything including the kitchen sink at one point to try and keep afloat where as yourselves have let players go but have brought in players of a decent quality. So you must see that it will rankle when you see quotes like 'Players are ring fenced' just after being in admin?

Looking at it with a level head Bradford bulls in one guise or another have had a difficult few years which has lead to more then one bout of admin which included a rather questionable incident involving our governing body and the purchase of the Odsal lease.
Then there was a situation where we then had the other SL clubs looking to buy the bulls to save them and the entire sport grouping together to help them. Yet here we are again. So when some Bradford fans seem be be of the view of 'nothing to see here' you must agree that will also rankle a little wouldn't you say?
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