Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:35 pm  

vbfg wrote:

In the sense that Wakefield fans have started insinuating that other teams being drawn against Wakefield is a conspiracy to make their opposition's life easier. If only there was some kind of level playing field where you got to play with yourselves.

What they have said.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:35 pm  

vbfg wrote: In the sense that Wakefield fans have started insinuating that other teams being drawn against Wakefield is a conspiracy to make their opposition's life easier. If only there was some kind of level playing field where you got to play with yourselves. Its a conspiracy!!! supercat wrote: Is it me or have london brought a few players over well after our signings. This stinks when players were told If play in world cup they would qualify for a visa and yet we are still waiting. Might be just me but there seems to be a lot of stuff manufactured to ensure we go down this season. Tbf, Steady is trying to calm them down a bit: http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?p=17696937&tsmp=1391549903#p17696937

vbfg wrote: In the sense that Wakefield fans have started insinuating that other teams being drawn against Wakefield is a conspiracy to make their opposition's life easier. If only there was some kind of level playing field where you got to play with yourselves. Its a conspiracy!!! supercat wrote: Is it me or have london brought a few players over well after our signings. This stinks when players were told If play in world cup they would qualify for a visa and yet we are still waiting. Might be just me but there seems to be a lot of stuff manufactured to ensure we go down this season. Tbf, Steady is trying to calm them down a bit: http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?p=17696937&tsmp=1391549903#p17696937

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:06 pm  

vbfg wrote:

In the sense that Wakefield fans have started insinuating that other teams being drawn against Wakefield is a conspiracy to make their opposition's life easier. If only there was some kind of level playing field where you got to play with yourselves.

Do you not feel that there is an advantage to be had from getting a flying start to the season?

I don't necessarily agree, but the poster on here gave a single example, to create an image of paranoia.

The original post gave at least 4 examples of Wakey being set up as a "sacrifice".

Simple statistics suggest it's odd, but deliberate?? I would like to think not.

Forums are not well served by posters using selective or misquoting though.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:18 pm  

dboy wrote:

Do you not feel that there is an advantage to be had from getting a flying start to the season?

Do you not feel that heavily implying that it's a fix in favour of whoever you've been picked to play is several standard deviations of stupid below even the usual level of nonsensical gibberish that normally passes for an argument on Rugby League forums?

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:20 pm  

Noble & Honest wrote:

There lies the difference between Wakefield and The Bulls.You seem to admit the ground was sold to the RFL at "undervalue".Of course as things panned out less than 8 months later the company operating Bradford Bulls was in administration and ultimately liquidated with the creditors reported at the time to be in the region of £2 million got nothing.Watch hoods Utube available interview in January 2012 with the BBC.The iconic ground was sold to ensure the Bulls long term survival.If you admit it was transferred at "undervalue" and placed out of the rach of the creditors just 9 months later it has indeed allowed the Bulls to survive.Otherwise houses may now be started to be built on Odsal within a few years to ensure ALL the creditors were paid including Crown.And local taxpayer.Remember Caisley negotiated as deal for the Bulls to return to Odsal with maintenance responsibilities till 2019 and received a very heavy £5.4 million to enable those responsibilities to be off Bradford council and the local taxpayers hands.Look at the state of the place.The Coral stand built at £2.7 million its roof lealed soon after build yet the builder could not be found.The money was blown well in advance of 2019.The reson the sky money was withheld in my guess is the RFL felt complicit in taking that "undervalue" ground for an alleged 1 million (given to the Bulls incidentally with £5.4 million handout)and yet by August 2012 the company still owed £2 million.And now owes 31.2 million and counting.Northern relics earlier post is right.The RFL have a lot to deal with and each case is dealt with on its merits.No two cases are the same.Think I"d better get one of those nuclear protectice suits.Things are getting a bit too tasty.The RFL do not help in ensuring players contracts are protected through hell and high water.The Bulls could have done without 3 on over £100 grand at September 2012.2 have gone anyway with a 9th spot finish.All cases are different but if the Bulls and Hood had not "conned" the RFL into believing that in taking the ground all would then be well the hardline approach so derided may not have arisen.Tghe Bulls were stuffed financially in taking the 3 year super league license at October 2011.They are still stuffed today.If I were the new 4 I would be bricking it as to how to turn this thing round with a falling fan loyalty and contracts to be honoured until November 2014.Which is why I feel Bullbuilder should be building a war chestnow to be able to keep the name going if all goes t I t s up.Banks results show they are still failing everywhere.These are very tough times for EVERYONE.I doubt the fans (and noble other chairmen)will have the rsources to raise £400k in a short time as in early May 2012.Stay focuissed and do not let the emotion of Wakefield fans perception cloud the issues.Big Nige understands it all.He cannot be in there at Odsal daily to assist those that did not understand any of it

Hi ya Armen,
Spouting a great deal of rubbish once more, but on the good site for supporters, shame!
One figure lets you down and lets us know who you are! For discerning readers the figure of £31.2 and £5.4 m are the product of an unusually strange and maybe mind.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:26 pm  

dboy wrote:

The original post gave at least 4 examples of Wakey being set up as a "sacrifice".

Well, I've looked at the last 18 seasons of SL and given we are the nice bloke child of Rupert Murdoch and Knock down Nigel, I am loving furious we've only ever got Wakefield once at home first up.....in 2010 and we managed to lose that too boot!
We have on the other hand, met St Helens at Home when we returned to the Broncos name (lost) Met St Helens in our first home outing as Harlequins Rugby League (massacred), Wigan were our first visitors at Griffin Park in 2002 (lost), met Huddersfield back at the Valley in 2000 (won), played Bradford in our first home game at the stoop in 1997 (lost) and had the filthy French at home in our first ever home SL game (won).

As conspiracy theories and master plans go, Wakey being the sacrificial lamb is up there with the best of them!

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:33 pm  

Wakefield facing Salford first up eh...the RFL really do hate them Wakey lot. Best not tell them it's a Bulls fan who is in charge of allocating fixtures at the RFL...

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:35 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Wakefield facing Salford first up eh...the RFL really do hate them Wakey lot. Best not tell them it's a Bulls fan who is in charge of allocating fixtures at the RFL...

....also, is this maybe the only time that a group of fans have complained about their team having to play the team that came DEAD SET loving LAST the previous season?

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:16 am  

dboy wrote:

You know full well that the point being made, is not simply about being Salfords first game, it's about how every team starting a season on a high and with something to prove, seems to be given Wakefield at their home.

It does seem more than just a coincidence. But don't let that stop your one-eyed misrepresentation of the facts.

That's made my day. When things start going belly up in about a half hour I will think back to one of the greatest posts I have had the misfortune to read.

Re: Ownership of Club Changes : Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:29 am  

tigertot wrote:

That's made my day. When things start going belly up in about a half hour I will think back to one of the greatest posts I have had the misfortune to read.

It's the irony of the last line that really does it for me. Superb stuff.