Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:29 pm  

Are we talking about the same England, the one that got beat by a bunch of overseas has beens and never will be's on home soil ?

Cloud cookoo land...

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:56 pm  

As always with England we may compete with them in the forwards but we can never compete in the backs. Our halves will never compete against the Aussies IMO.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:18 pm  

Salford red all over wrote:

Are we talking about the same England, the one that got beat by a bunch of overseas has beens and never will be's on home soil ?

Cloud cookoo land...

Not quite the same team. We are adding Roby, Chase, Heightington, Widdop, Ellis, Reed and Brough to it.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:46 am  

FYI Reed was selected in Big League Week (I think) as one of the top two centres in the NRL this year.

Australia look strong enough in most areas, but if Inglis is unfit they look a bit weak in the centres (still good players but not the very best). Having said that, I doubt we'll beat them. What I want to see is us being competitive for a full 80 minutes, not hanging in there for 60 minutes then falling apart.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:56 am  

Jonesy wrote:

Looking at how many players from Australia and NZ that are injured or electing for off season surgery, this may be the year.

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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:14 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

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Catch them while you can.

I don't think so, Australia to beat the Kiwis in the final by a few.

I wouldn't mind if England won either as long as its a good game and the best team on the day wins.
Its only a game at the end of the day, this should be England's best chance in ages.
Locky is a shadow of himself, weak in the Centres, big chance for England but somehow I doubt they will take it, they crap themselves in the big games and when defences don't just open up they run out of ideas.

In the last couple of years the thing that always seems noticeable about England's game is..
Really poor kicking game.
Poor team selections with players out of their usual positions.
Inability to read attacking moves and defend against simple plays.
Last but not least, really poor general skills whether that is passing in either direction or even catching the ball, some games has seen mistakes that School kids would not make.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:26 am  

Jonesy wrote:

I wouldn't mind if England won either as long as its a good game and the best team on the day wins.

Good on ya Jonesy


However

Jonesy wrote:

Locky is a shadow of himself, weak in the Centres.

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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:08 am  

Gutted that Shaun Johnson is out. Was looking forward to seeing him!!

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:51 am  

also matai & Vatuvai now too for NZ and inglis,dave taylor (for the newcastle test) & brett stewart (tour) for australia


don't buy into the myth the the kiwis now have loads of depth.....this squad is now akin to the 2007 that got hammered 3-0

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:32 am  

Not a bad result for Australia that both the Stewarts are out.
It brings in a Second Rower that is as good at centre (Scott) and a dedicated Centre in Tonga.
Better balance all round.