Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:39 pm  

Mentality mentioned a couple of times already.

Now go through this website and see how inherent it is back in blighty. How about we change that?



I think we'll win. If we lose, we brush ourselves down, shake their hands, look them in the eye and think about how we'll beat them next time, not go on about our losses.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:15 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Mentality mentioned a couple of times already.

Now go through this website and see how inherent it is back in blighty. How about we change that?



I think we'll win. If we lose, we brush ourselves down, shake their hands, look them in the eye and think about how we'll beat them next time, not go on about our losses.

Agreed! Come on England!

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:28 am  

No, will only win Wales

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:30 am  

Saddened! wrote:

We have this every year. We watch these players do well and figure they're great.

But we lack the mentality, ruthlessness and togetherness to beat Australia IMO.

I think it's more the fitness we lack. We were the better side for 55-60 minutes at Elland Road only to die on our feet and get wallopped in the last 20.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:33 am  

Willzay wrote:

No, will only win Wales

I don't understand.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:36 am  

Willzay wrote:

No, will only win Wales

Why would we want Wales? Haven't we tried to get rid of it once?

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:18 am  

Would be a fair effort without Burgess, O'Loughlin, Crabtree and possibly Joel Tomkins.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:21 am  

The Eclipse wrote:

Would be a fair effort without Burgess, O'Loughlin, Crabtree and possibly Joel Tomkins.

Agree on Burgess and O'Loughlin, don't think the other two would make the starting 17.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:24 am  

We've got as good a team on paper as we have for a long while and you'd hope that would translate to performances on the field but it probably balances out due to us having McNamara as coach!

Our best hope of winning the thing is if the Kiwi's beat the Aussies at Warrington and then we manage to make them panic the week after at Wembley and beat them. Thats easier said then done as they're used to high pressure game but it would have to be that way as you just can't see us beating them in a final.

Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:24 am  

Saddened! wrote:

We have this every year. We watch these players do well and figure they're great.

But we lack the mentality, ruthlessness and togetherness to beat Australia IMO.

Once again, the English Rugby league fascination, obsession and inferiority complex with all things Australian rises to the surface

The Australians hold exactly as many international trophies as we do so why should we be talking about beating them and not the Kiwi’s? The New Zealand team and public have shaken off their inferiority complex, so should we