Re: Your England team on current form : Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:58 pm  

Code13 wrote:

No one has suggested George should get in, at the moment he is on fire, but needs to carry on all season
Reed isnt better than Cudjoe, and if you think Cudjoe doesnt pass enough, you clearly dont watch the game mutch
Roby and Burrow are different players to Robinson. Robinson has at least ALWAYS performed well at international level when he has played, being one of the few England players to come away from the last world cup with any credibility
Crabtree is playing very well, if any Huddersfield fans say they arent, they dont watch much either - last season he wasnt in too great form
Eden is raw, but would benefit from being in the Knights squad. Give him a year or two.

Generally speaking, you talk tosh from what i have seen of your posts.

Should we just select the Huddersfield team then?

Re: Your England team on current form : Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:04 pm  

George has played well so far but I think he is behind Charnley, Briscoe and BJB at the moment for the 'other' wingers spot. Reed formed a good partnership with Hall in the 4Nations and played well throughout. Theres nothing about Cudjoe that would scare Australia. However he is very good Super League player. Reed and Watkins are the best two centres at the moment for me with Atkins 3rd and cudjoe 4th. The World Cup was almost 4 years ago so how Robinson played in it then is irrelevant. Crabtree is a good player and could well force his way into the World Cup side. But currently is behind Graham, Morley and JP in the pecking order and Burgess depending on where he plays. I havnt seen enough of Eden to comment.

Just because your opinion is different to his. Doesnt make you right. Everything on here is all about opinions and reasoned arguments.

Re: Your England team on current form : Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:09 pm  

Sibbs Rhinos wrote:

Should we just select the Huddersfield team then?

Or you could read my post. Or the thoughts i had on team selection

Re: Your England team on current form : Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:11 pm  

jarvis12345 wrote:

Everything on here is all about opinions and reasoned arguments.

Hardly

Since neither of you has read my post, or the ideas I had for the team selection, or the posts I was responding to.

Re: Your England team on current form : Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:11 pm  

Tomkins
Hall
Watkins
Atkins
Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
Sinfield

Morley
Westwood
Crabtree
Houghton

Re: Your England team on current form : Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:31 pm  

Without NRL players
Tomkins
Charnley
Atkins
Watkins
Hall
Sinfield
Brough
Mossop
Roby
Morley
Westwood
Hock
O’Loughlin

Morley
Burrow
Patrick
Peacock

With NRL players
Tomkins
Charnley
Reed
Watkins
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Burgess
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Mossop
Morley
Burrow
Hock

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:21 am  

Tompkins
Hall
Watkins
Bridge
Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O Loughlin

Houghton
Mossop
Patrick
Hock

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:38 am  

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Ryan Hall
3. Jack Reed
4. Kallum Watkins
5. Josh Charnley
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Gareth Hock
15. Rob Burrow
16. Jamie Peacock
17. Lee Mossop

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:53 am  

Bill Sonny wrote:

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Ryan Hall
3. Jack Reed
4. Kallum Watkins
5. Josh Charnley
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Gareth Hock
15. Rob Burrow
16. Jamie Peacock
17. Lee Mossop

bang on for me.

Re: Your England team on current form : Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:34 am  

People really underestimate Reed. One of the form centres in the NRL last year, and doing pretty well on his less-favoured left side this year (see the try he set up vs the Cowboys for a GREAT centre's pass). What he does is make the most basic centre task - setting up his winger - look easy, which I think is why people underrate him. Half the 'best' British centres I've seen may as well play with nobody outside them, as they seem to only pass as a last resort. That's why I like Watkins, and am yet to be convinced by Hardaker (who has time to learn, before anybody starts whining).

In total, so long as Tomkins is fit, we have the best 1-5 options available probably since the RU well dried up. That is something we should all be pleased about.

Our forward stock looks OK, but I'd be sorely tempted to move away from Morley and Peacock today as I have real doubts that they'll be up to scratch after almost another two seasons when the world Cup starts.

The glaring gap in the team is halfback. We desperately need the likes of Widdopp and Brough to step up a level. Otherwise the rest of the team has no chance against Australia.