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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:13 pm  
Seems perverse to play him at centre anyway. Bath fans round here are none too pleased, he's surely more suited to 6 or 8.

Maybe Eastmond (surely a better centre than SB anyway) is a more realistic option for a return to SL, as he's once again been overlooked by England, presumably for being 'too small'.

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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:53 pm  
Given Andy Farrell is the England backs coach, Eastmond's omission is hardly a surprise. They can't be having creative centres playing for England RU.
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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:48 pm  
Burgess has been training as a 'crash-ball' centre in the mould of Manu Tuilagi who is suspended from duty. It's a fair comparison - he can beat the gain-line and is strong defensively, but I'm not sure it's going to work against the very best at the World Cup.

He's had a superb debut season, not that anyone on here would have expected otherwise, but it's been spent mostly at 6 and I think that's where he should be considered. Too late for that now though and the spotlight will really be on him tomorrow where I expect he will be having a straight shoot-out with Slade for the last centre position - they are very different players but if England are looking for a strong carrier then he is undoubtedly the best option they have already. Joseph, Burrell and Barritt will probably all be picked before him but if named in the squad he should see some game time in the 'easier' pool games at the very least. Looking forward to see how he goes tomorrow.

Eastmond is pretty unlucky, on last seasons form I'd pick him over Burrell and he is infinitely better with the ball than Barritt who is in simply because of his defence. I can only assume that the coaching staff don't rate him highly enough defensively.
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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:37 pm  
Agreed. Joseph is one of the very few union players who I really rate in terms of ball skills, along with Mike Brown and Danny Care. All three would be good in league, I reckon.
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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:38 pm  
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Burgess has been training as a 'crash-ball' centre in the mould of Manu Tuilagi who is suspended from duty. It's a fair comparison - he can beat the gain-line and is strong defensively, but I'm not sure it's going to work against the very best at the World Cup.

He's had a superb debut season, not that anyone on here would have expected otherwise, but it's been spent mostly at 6 and I think that's where he should be considered. Too late for that now though and the spotlight will really be on him tomorrow where I expect he will be having a straight shoot-out with Slade for the last centre position - they are very different players but if England are looking for a strong carrier then he is undoubtedly the best option they have already. Joseph, Burrell and Barritt will probably all be picked before him but if named in the squad he should see some game time in the 'easier' pool games at the very least. Looking forward to see how he goes tomorrow.

Eastmond is pretty unlucky, on last seasons form I'd pick him over Burrell and he is infinitely better with the ball than Barritt who is in simply because of his defence. I can only assume that the coaching staff don't rate him highly enough defensively.



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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:40 pm  
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... d-Cup.html. let's hope Sam doesn't run into Al these thugs.....plus seems they can't sell out twickkers lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... d-Cup.html. let's hope Sam doesn't run into Al these thugs.....plus seems they can't sell out twickkers lol
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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:46 pm  
I suppose by union standards, Manu Tuilagi is rated as a big hitter. Of course, he's not in the same league as a Sam Burgess or a Steve Matai or a JWH.
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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:25 pm  
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-3195659/Twickenham-residents-demand-RFU-curb-booze-culture-rugby-crowds-descend-England-vs-France-clash-World-Cup.html. let's hope Sam doesn't run into Al these thugs.....plus seems they can't sell out twickkers lol


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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:40 am  
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Agreed. Joseph is one of the very few union players who I really rate in terms of ball skills, along with Mike Brown and Danny Care. All three would be good in league, I reckon.


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Re: Sam Burgess Union debut : Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:25 am  
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A RL fan is mocking England RU for 'only' getting a 60,000+ crowd for a friendly weeks before a busy and very expensive RWC? :lol: The RFU will make more money from this one friendly than RL did from its 2013 Heritage Cup (sponsored by Groupon).


Thin edge of the wedge mucker ,seems the bubbles bursting ,what are your men going to do when they flop at this works cup ? Sign more rl players and coaches ?I mean how slow is your sport when rl forwards are quicker than your backs anyway Sam look out for all them yobs peeing everywhere
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