Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:48 pm  

FFS.


Myler's kicking has been crap and been one of the differences between the sides.

Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:51 pm  

If Connor is fit to come back on, for me he need to come on in the halves in place of Myler.

Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:56 pm  

Shifty Cat wrote:

No, but still gets away with it.

Also thought the Makinson try was good, Proctor was looking for the penalty, which I don't think it was anyway because they'd been caught short on that side imo.

Apart from that though we've had enough chances in their 20 to score a few times but just haven't been clinical enough.

thought it was straight forward old fashioned Shepard/obstruction to me, no complaints, not sure he grounded it in field of play either.

Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:57 pm  

As much as the kicking hasn’t been good, it’s the defensive shape and being dominated in the contact that’s been the difference.

Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:00 pm  

Seth wrote:

As much as the kicking hasn’t been good, it’s the defensive shape and being dominated in the contact that’s been the difference.

Hill responsible for two of there tries with two very poor tackle attempts, Lomax simply bottles it overtime somebody runs at him one on one. Kiwis been clinical with there chances whilst we have just been a tad unlucky.

Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:01 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

thought it was straight forward old fashioned Shepard/obstruction to me, no complaints, not sure he grounded it in field of play either.

Only got to see the grounding once I think so you may be right but think the obstruction call could have gone a different way, seemed to me that Burgess ran his line and Proctor followed him.

Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:03 pm  

A game of 1 team taking their chances and the other team bombing their's.

They won this battle, but we won the war, and that's the main thing.

Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:03 pm  

Macgillvray stepped again and then gets 10 for silly play. Think we’d be better removing the right side players and putting in our some card board cut outs. Only players who come out of this with any credit are those on the left side.

Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:06 pm  

Seth wrote:

As much as the kicking hasn’t been good, it’s the defensive shape and being dominated in the contact that’s been the difference.

I think the end of sets kick has been a big issue for us but like you say we haven't been as dominant in the contact, mainly down to being short on troops. Just put Sam and George in that team with Clarke, Tomkins, and Widdop and it's a different game imo. The right side especially has been targetted by NZ and done a job on us.

Even though it's been quite a tight game at times and were unlucky a few occasions not to score, this performance has been really underwhelming, even with all the players out.

Re: England v Kiwis 3rd test : Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:07 pm  

England have shamed the country today and undermined all Bennett's good work.