Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:23 am  

Seth wrote:

Seriously, what?

I'll try not to go off on one but, in so many religions, the spin that is put on certain events is just scandalous.
So a bush fire causing mayhem and the death of innocent people is retribution for gay marriage and abortion - SERIOUSLY

People can believe whatever they want, nobody should have control over anyone's mind, although ,religion does try pretty hard but, to use a natural disaster to propagate a particular viewpoint is not acceptable.

Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:30 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I'll try not to go off on one but, in so many religions, the spin that is put on certain events is just scandalous.
So a bush fire causing mayhem and the death of innocent people is retribution for gay marriage and abortion - SERIOUSLY

People can believe whatever they want, nobody should have control over anyone's mind, although ,religion does try pretty hard but, to use a natural disaster to propagate a particular viewpoint is not acceptable.

Im glad you clarified. I deplore religion and people like him strengthen my position

Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:37 am  

Seth wrote:

Im glad you clarified. I deplore religion and people like him strengthen my position

For a minute there, I thought that you were defending his comments.

Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:46 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

For a minute there, I thought that you were defending his comments.

I think my opening of this thread shows my position.

Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:01 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I'll try not to go off on one but, in so many religions, the spin that is put on certain events is just scandalous.
So a bush fire causing mayhem and the death of innocent people is retribution for gay marriage and abortion - SERIOUSLY

People can believe whatever they want, nobody should have control over anyone's mind, although ,religion does try pretty hard but, to use a natural disaster to propagate a particular viewpoint is not acceptable.

Use of a natural disaster to push a religious doctrine is pretty widespread though. Every major disaster in the US is seen by some religious group as punishment by their God. Even 9/11 was not spared with Billy Graham's daughter having her say on why 3000 people had to die.

Folau is just another in a long long line that uses a disaster to promote beliefs.

Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:15 pm  

You'd think that if there was an omnipotent being as powerful as these people believe, they would just not make gays or change the laws of nature so that abortion wasn't possible.

But no, they throw natural disasters around the place, killing people that are not gay and never had an abortion. it's like they're making stuff up to suit an agenda. Why does god always seem to have sexual hang-ups? Busy fine tuning the very fabric of reality but doesn't like the thought of one of his animals penetrating the mud donut. Anyone who believes this nonsense wants locking away!

Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:32 pm  

Seth wrote:

Im glad you clarified. I deplore religion and people like him strengthen my position

Yet we teach this thing, that there is not a shred of evidence for, to impressionable young children.

Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:36 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Yet we teach this thing, that there is not a shred of evidence for, to impressionable young children.

The only way religion maintains its existence is through the fear and indoctrination of young people.

Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:00 pm  

Seth wrote: Is anyone still willing to claim his 'freedom of speech' after this...https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/1092536/ The guys a religious fundamentalist nutjob the like of which need putting away. I do. Freedom of speech does not mean you only hear what you want to hear. Its only the same nonsenses most fundamental religions preach, Judaism, Muslim and Christianity to name a few, shall we ban the opinions of a billion people?. People like you need to grasp the reality of life and while you're at it get off your high horse

Seth wrote: Is anyone still willing to claim his 'freedom of speech' after this...https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/1092536/ The guys a religious fundamentalist nutjob the like of which need putting away. I do. Freedom of speech does not mean you only hear what you want to hear. Its only the same nonsenses most fundamental religions preach, Judaism, Muslim and Christianity to name a few, shall we ban the opinions of a billion people?. People like you need to grasp the reality of life and while you're at it get off your high horse

Re: Folau : Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:02 pm  

Seth wrote:

The problem is that his 'freedom of speech' gives rise to the more violent and dangerous extremists.

Really, and who decides this, you and your virtual echo chamber mates I suppose.