: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:11 pm  

Never Mighty Wires wrote:

It was just Pitiful and it hurt me as fan of his to see him struggle so much.

Struggle?

Good grief.

I have many wonderful memories of Briers who has, at times, been a wonderful player. I've defended him recently, he has often been let down by other members of the team.

But you can count on one hand the number of times he's struggled in his Warrington career. He is, at best, a lazy sod who has wasted an enormous talent due to a "big fish in a small pond" mentality.

And he has to leave now if we are to salvage anything from our club.

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:48 pm  

just_browny wrote:

Struggle?

Good grief.

I have many wonderful memories of Briers who has, at times, been a wonderful player. I've defended him recently, he has often been let down by other members of the team.

But you can count on one hand the number of times he's struggled in his Warrington career. He is, at best, a lazy sod who has wasted an enormous talent due to a "big fish in a small pond" mentality.

And he has to leave now if we are to salvage anything from our club.

Yes, struggle. Throughout the match he struggled to have any influence on the match, he has struggled for any good form recently, a struggling player especially towards the twlight of their career is a worrying player me thinks.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:35 am  

I havent seen any of your games this year , apart from the televised one but i do have to say i find it confusing that you blame one player for the poor run , especially one who is held in such high regard

For alot of seasons briers has been the most dangerous thing about warrington and I for one hated him playing against us

Is it not possible and probably more likely that this is due to a confidence crisis in the whole club caused by , not only a poor start to this year but , in truth , many seasons of underacheiving.

First Cullen is to blame , now briers , where next ?

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:35 am  

I havent seen any of your games this year , apart from the televised one but i do have to say i find it confusing that you blame one player for the poor run , especially one who is held in such high regard

For alot of seasons briers has been the most dangerous thing about warrington and I for one hated him playing against us

Is it not possible and probably more likely that this is due to a confidence crisis in the whole club caused by , not only a poor start to this year but , in truth , many seasons of underacheiving.

First Cullen is to blame , now briers , where next ?

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:59 pm  

fat ash wrote:

For alot of seasons briers has been the most dangerous thing about warrington and I for one hated him playing against us

Rugby League is a funny game, where things can happen/change quickly. Look at Hull FC this year compared to last. A vast improvement now they don't have the black cloud of injuries against them. Briers is an enigma, yes he as won games but he can't keep it up forever.

There comes a time when you have to move on and let someone else take his place, the problem with warrington is that fans seem to be afraid of the time when Briers leaves, fearing the worst. After all, who was it who got those dropgoals at Leeds, who used to pick us out of the gutter with a sneaky 40-20?

Fans and players seem to fear when he goes, we will not have anyone to take over, by now we should have someone aching for the chance but there isn't!Despite what people think, we won trophies before Briers came and we sure as hell will win trophies when he's gone.

As for off the field focal points, i could go on.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:47 pm  

I heard a whisper Briers could be going to Widnes, not sure myself but kinda makes sense with Cullen, and Briers isn't really a TS style player.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:35 pm  

The problem that Warrington have at present is not solely due to the playing staff's ability out on the pitch

IMO the club has recruited Tony Smith to change the culture of the club, They have obviously got a squad of players that are quite contented on living on "easy street" at present.

Warrington's squad looks quite good, <and they are obviously upto the salary cap levels imposed by the RL, so there's no room for further investment in the squad>

There's clearly enough talent in that squad to finish the season in a top 4 spot,.......but why do they consistantly fail to deliver each season?

I wouldn't be surprised to see the exit from the club of a certain ring leader in the not too distant future if things don't change!

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:42 pm  

'Hitman' Norvern Soul wrote:

Back to Briers, did Steve Anderson try to instigate a swap deal in 2002, Briers for Turley? I heard it at the time, but never thought much of it tbh.

About the same time, I remember talk of a Dunneman/Briers swap while Dunneman was at Halifax,

Ive been told by an ex player that Briers has run the dressing room at Widnes for years, if thats the case then by now the coach (be it Cullen or Lowes0 should have dealt with it.

Think it was the same season where he had the selfish 5 drop goals in a match performance which went on to cost Warrington the game

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:09 pm  

Wire 17- 17 Wigan

Briers was awesome

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:17 pm  

KiAiSiAiSuId wrote:

Has he truly been awful ALL year???

Didn't see any highlights last week but you ran Leeds close, did he have any part in that whatsoever?

Or is it more a kind of Lampard / Gerrard scenario in the sense that the player isn't problem it is the fact he can't operate with the players around him? Some actually proven to be world class (ok 1 or 2 )

Do you drop Briers straight away or change your halfback partnership and see if he shines, plus if anyone gets the best from his players surely Tony Smith does ?

Yeah he scored a try