Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:19 pm  

I cannot understand the recent trend of putting players on report for infringements that the referee has seen but does not have the courage to act upon.
The placing of a player on report means that ok the player may or may not be banned from the next game(s) but his team can bring in another player to replace him whilst he serves his ban.
The whole idea of sin binning was to stop foul play in that the offender's team are penalised for his misdemeanour and suffer accordingly.
This latest trend of placing on report is just a kop out on the part of the referees.

Re: Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:40 pm  

rockman wrote:

I cannot understand the recent trend of putting players on report for infringements that the referee has seen but does not have the courage to act upon.
The placing of a player on report means that ok the player may or may not be banned from the next game(s) but his team can bring in another player to replace him whilst he serves his ban.
The whole idea of sin binning was to stop foul play in that the offender's team are penalised for his misdemeanour and suffer accordingly.
This latest trend of placing on report is just a kop out on the part of the referees.

Whilst not completely disagreeing with you, if the ref had sin binned Lauaki for his first on report offence on Friday, he would have been wrong, as has been proved today. However, for the second one a binning or sending off would have been correct, as would Westwoods attack to the head at the time of the first incident.

Re: Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:52 pm  

What about Chris Bridge at Huddersfield??????

Re: Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:54 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Whilst not completely disagreeing with you, if the ref had sin binned Lauaki for his first on report offence on Friday, he would have been wrong, as has been proved today. However, for the second one a binning or sending off would have been correct, as would Westwoods attack to the head at the time of the first incident.

Strangely I find myself agreeing with you benny will get one match Lauaki will get two Hock if he had not been taken of in the first half may have been in some trouble.

Re: Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:54 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Whilst not completely disagreeing with you, if the ref had sin binned Lauaki for his first on report offence on Friday, he would have been wrong, as has been proved today. However, for the second one a binning or sending off would have been correct, as would Westwoods attack to the head at the time of the first incident.

Can't agree with part of that Rogues. The RFL decision re the Lauaki forearm is a total cop out. You simply cannot lead with the forearm like that. It is incredibly dangerous and if you lead with the forearm up like he did, then you are asking for trouble.

Re: Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:22 pm  

What always gets me is that when a player makes a situation for himself it is within that particular game and is affecting the team he is facing on that day (could injure someone for example). So for me, if a player is conducting serious foul play, he should be punished on that day so that the team he is facing gets the benefit of that incident as they should, there and then. ie. they are a man down for either ten minutes or the whole match.

Putting someone on report is doing nothing to rectify a situation there and then. Plus it doesn't punish his team; as when he's suspended they can bring someone else in to replace him, while he has a nice week off with his feet up and is fresh for the next game. They basically get away Scott free.

I think initial incidents should not be allowed to be out on report; initial incidents should only be dealt with within that particular match. Therefore no reprimand, a penalty, a sin bin or a sending off will occur in that match.
Anyone retaliating can be out in report. Like Benny, for striking an opponent and his own man, he is banned next week.

Re: Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:26 pm  

Teessidewire wrote:

Can't agree with part of that Rogues. The RFL decision re the Lauaki forearm is a total cop out. You simply cannot lead with the forearm like that. It is incredibly dangerous and if you lead with the forearm up like he did, then you are asking for trouble.

Not punishing that sort of play will mean it will happen over and over again until someone has their jaw, cheekbone or eye socket fractured and only then will the RFL start coming down on it.

It's as dangerous as anything else in our game.

Re: Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:31 pm  

I also do not think placing of a player on report means that ok the player may or may not be banned from the next game(s) but if he is his team can bring in another player to replace him whilst he serves his ban and may not cost them points in the league.
The whole idea of sin binning was to stop foul play in that the offender's team are penalised for his misdemeanour and suffer accordingly in that game and that game only? But some are very poor and need further action also some are not too bad, but at least the team sinned against gets some reward.

Re: Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:11 pm  

I always thought that the on report system was introduced for those occasions where the officials had a good idea that something had happened but none had actually seen it. To me this introduced a paradox - if an official hadn't seen an offence then how could he give a penalty? If he had seen it then why place a player on report? This 'aid' to the officials is now clearly abused as seen by Silverwood on Friday. He saw clearly what Lauaki had done (the spear) proved by his talking to and commenting on Blythe landing on his back.

In the same way referees are now abusing the 'pass the ball after held is called'. We have already seen players sent back when they got up and ran after clearly being tackled - not what the rule was introduced for.

On the basis that every minute of every Super League game is reviewed anyway I would say the on report system is now completely redundant and should be scrapped.

Re: Sin Binning - Red Cards : Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:32 pm  

You often hear football fans saying a sin bin should be brought in, as it allows a punishment for things that are more than a foul, but not quite worthy of a sending off. IMO, that's how I always viewed the sin bin in our game. It is now almost extinct, whilst the report has become what the yellow card is in football, a cop out.

IMO, the sin bin doesn't even ruin the spectacle, foul play and professional fouls ruin the spectacle for me.