: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:47 pm  

But as we are up to the max on the salary cap as it is we can't sign anyone.

Re: Is it any wonder? : Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:55 pm  

maurice wrote:

Ill add one
FOOL - one who buries his head in the sand whilst his loved one is raped.
Supporter - one who is passionate enough to care about his loved one to only want the best for her/him

That analogy is one of the worst things you have put up on here, from the crassness of that remark I gather none of your family have ever been the subject of a sexual attack, I have had a family member subject of rape and to compare it with a sports club is totally out of order especially trying to gain political capital out of it.
I for one hope none of yours have to go through the trauma ssociated with that particular nasty crime.

: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:04 pm  

Leigh24.7 wrote:

Well that's about 700+ up on our current average.
£16 x say 500 is £8000 per home game (approx £128000 over 16 games). I think we could have a couple of decent players for that amount

Average is more like £11 with concessions.

Take away VAT leaves you with less than £10, take away employers NIC leaves you with about £8.

£8 x 500 = £4000.

You wont get 500 for every one of the 16 games, 10 tops.

£40000 gets you a Penk.

Penk wont add 500 to the gate.

: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:17 pm  

Cant do anything this year now.

Now as for nex year???? but then again I suppose just as a devils advocate .... why should the directors (AT) speculate if the fans wont by buying season tickets, its all right saying how well supported as a club we were but we have NEVER had season ticket sales as good as Widnes or Halifax and even through our so called 'good years' we only sold marginally more than Whitehaven and NEVER approached the figures of Huddersfield, Salford, Castlefordetc.... uust throwing those figures and comments in as being a devils advocate...

It is another fact that the RFL check the budgets on a regular basis especiall on those clubs with 'previous' on salary cap breaches, and check them thoroughly too.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:49 am  

Alexs Dad wrote:

Can anyone tell me who we have signed in the last 20 years who has made a significant impact on our attendances?

Each top player on say 40k a year needs 400 additional folk through the gates.

Would we get another 1200 on if we had them?

No chance. We were the best team outside SL for 5 years and still only got 2500.

luke isaacs??

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:42 am  

FredParky wrote:

But as we are up to the max on the salary cap as it is we can't sign anyone.

We definitely have some over payed players at the club then, i cant get my head round how teams like Barrow get some much quality in under the cap if we are at max with our young squad.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:44 am  

Do players under 21 count on the salary cap?

is it any wonder : Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:28 am  

The club can,t quite be up to the salary cap if we can offer a contract to an Australian stand off and also offer to take players on loan.

I realise however there can,t be much in the kitty.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:33 am  

DemonUK wrote:

Do players under 21 count on the salary cap?

I am not sure about that , but that is another area where the NL1s representatives at the RFLs junket days should start to do some tough talking at their meetings at the posh away days instead of just being noding dogs
I would get together with all the other clubs below Super League and insist that if your club brings a young player through your Service Area or Acadamy and he breaks into the first team he should be exempt from the salary cap. That way it encourages clubs to spend money on youth development and you can afford to pay these lads instead of some SL side taking them straight off you.You could always have an age limit like 21/22 so you get a return on your investment.If you are doing it right as well which it apears Leigh does you should also have plenty of money over to buy a few experianced big names to help pull them along.
I would love to go to these junket meetings to see what happens each club has a rep and NL1 and below outnumber the Soooper Dooper reps but we always get shortchanged for some reason.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:23 am  

johnny freeman fan club wrote:

I am not sure about that , but that is another area where the NL1s representatives at the RFLs junket days should start to do some tough talking at their meetings at the posh away days instead of just being noding dogs
I would get together with all the other clubs below Super League and insist that if your club brings a young player through your Service Area or Acadamy and he breaks into the first team he should be exempt from the salary cap. That way it encourages clubs to spend money on youth development and you can afford to pay these lads instead of some SL side taking them straight off you.You could always have an age limit like 21/22 so you get a return on your investment.If you are doing it right as well which it apears Leigh does you should also have plenty of money over to buy a few experianced big names to help pull them along.
I would love to go to these junket meetings to see what happens each club has a rep and NL1 and below outnumber the Soooper Dooper reps but we always get shortchanged for some reason.

Extract from RL Operational Rules on NL Salary Cap:-

7.3 Costs for those players under 21 who are eligible to play in the academy teams are to be excluded from the Salary Cap Costs. For the avoidance of doubt this means players need to be under 21 years of age on August 31st 2008. However there is no credit granted against Salary Cap cost for U21 players loaned out to other clubs see 6.4.2
above.