: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:34 pm  

Asda carpark wrote:

Do you know what the core value of any party bar the BNP is these days? I'd say they arnt so far apart. I know you can see on websites and so forth but what one says and one does are 2 different things. There is always a new policy coming out for something which even if its godd will still get slagged by everyone else. Politics. Thats the problem. Amateurs trying to run this good country of ours.

I think you can vote for a party if you disagree with its core values. What if you disagree with every parties core values? Not likely. Maybe you have a bee in your bonnet about one such thing. Which may be your point about ignorance. I dont know. I can see why people are leaning towards the BNP. I wouldnt now because I have read ALL there policies and the mission statement not on the website. And took it in eventually. My original point was that you are not racist if you vote BNP. Maybe fed up. Ethnic minorities are now looking at them. Are they racist? I think its because whatever Government has been charge over my lifetime has been an abject failure. At just about everything.

Anyways. Thanks for the debate, its good to disgaree and get things off ones chest. Going to celebrate St Patricks day with a lovely pint of Guinness. Will I celebrate St Georges day? Don't even know when it is.....

They are racist. They are xenophobic. They are the British NATIONALIST party. Their manifesto, like all others, is not to be trusted.

I understand why people look to them because there is no differentiable alternative. Labour abandoned the working classes in 97. IMHO there is a need for a party to the left NOT further right than the Etonians.

Before you cast a vote for the BNP ask yourself how many of the decent people who voted the German Nationalist Socialist Party to power with a mandate for change felt when, twelve years later, they discovered their own government's 'immigration policy' was, simply, industrialized murder.

Would they have said, "Well, I never voted for that policy. Just for economic reform. Of course I knew they were extreme in their views, but they never mentioned at the election they were going to send millions down the track and up the chimney else I may not have voted for them."

Be careful what you wish for.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:59 pm  

I havent got the energy or spair time on my hands to read all these posts, but ill post a few points made by the BNP to illustrate why I support them:

There is a "Black Police Assoiciation", "Black Lawyers Assoication", "Black Nurses Assiocation" but if we tried to make a "White ***** Assoication" we would be deemed rasist, and thats wrong!

St Georges Day isnt celebrated enough in England, we need to be more patriotic and celebrate it properly

Want the power to be back in teachers hands, the kane if nessicary

promote christianity

fear were becoming a 3rd world country

immegration shoudl be stopped, not because theyre "rasist", but because it cost the tax payers (fact) £8.8 billion in 2008, the NHS cost 2.2 billion to run yet the government cant afford to run the NHS!!! but they can afford to pay for immigrant, weve seen it in leigh, theres no point there bein a hospital in leigh

we (white british) could be an ethnic minority in our own country in 50 to 60 years on current demographic figures

Believes privitisation of BRITISH industry is wrong, Rover sold to CHina, Jaguar sold to India, the best one of all, EDF!!! It stand for Electricite de France.... are your utility bills high? thats because forign companys make british people pay over the top prices becuase they want to make profit, because they are not state owned. Meanwhile EDF offer subsidised bills to French poeple as theyre making enough money from English people to do that..... (this is my theroy not the BNP) but i think EDF could let all their frech cunstomers have free electricity and still make a profit.....
Also TNT express delievery is owned by the Dutch poat office, and THL another deleivery servise in england is owned by the German post office.... this takes custome away from the royal mail!!! takin our business
(this was done by the tories not the labours btw)

23% of pensioners live in poverty conditions in the UK today

A teacher cant get sacked for watching hardcore pron, but yet can be sacked for viewin BNP literiture

isylum seekers, if they fail the form which they get given on asylum (which is pretty hard to do, even timmy street could do it) they get paided to go back to thier country of ethnic origin..... this amounts equates to 24 times the average annual salary in Iraq or Iran, andd you the tax payer are payin for it.... this can build homes and business.... seekers come over to fail the form so they can get money to take back home.. (easy days work to me) in a couple of minutes you can get 24 times your YEARLY ANNUAL SALARY by failin an assylm form!! PATHETIC!!!

Isylum, the orignal principle is- "Isylum seekers have the right to write refuge in the 1st safe country BORDERING THIERS when they are fleeing legal persecution." i did not know that iran iraq borders england....... weird

how come black people are an ethnic minority, and where not??????

there are all these lies and faults in the way the country in run....... these are only SOME.... and i MEAN SOME of the BNPs arguments, politicians wont argue with Nick Griffin becuase thier scared of him, not because hes rasist......... they know hes right, and they know if he gets televised ect... he will be in power in the next eleection and thier trying to stop him......

my opinion again.....

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:04 am  

sorry for the spelling mistkaes, im very tired, dyslexic and rushin it lol.... going to bed now guys

[Dick Jones]

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:10 am  

Mookachaka wrote:

sorry for the spelling mistkaes, im very tired, dyslexic and rushin it lol.... going to bed now guys

You have to be up early so that s a good idea

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:53 am  

Mookachaka wrote:

I havent got the energy or spair time on my hands to read all these posts, but ill post a few points made by the BNP to illustrate why I support them:

There is a "Black Police Assoiciation", "Black Lawyers Assoication", "Black Nurses Assiocation" but if we tried to make a "White ***** Assoication" we would be deemed rasist, and thats wrong!

St Georges Day isnt celebrated enough in England, we need to be more patriotic and celebrate it properly

Want the power to be back in teachers hands, the kane if nessicary

promote christianity

fear were becoming a 3rd world country

immegration shoudl be stopped, not because theyre "rasist", but because it cost the tax payers (fact) £8.8 billion in 2008, the NHS cost 2.2 billion to run yet the government cant afford to run the NHS!!! but they can afford to pay for immigrant, weve seen it in leigh, theres no point there bein a hospital in leigh

we (white british) could be an ethnic minority in our own country in 50 to 60 years on current demographic figures

Believes privitisation of BRITISH industry is wrong, Rover sold to CHina, Jaguar sold to India, the best one of all, EDF!!! It stand for Electricite de France.... are your utility bills high? thats because forign companys make british people pay over the top prices becuase they want to make profit, because they are not state owned. Meanwhile EDF offer subsidised bills to French poeple as theyre making enough money from English people to do that..... (this is my theroy not the BNP) but i think EDF could let all their frech cunstomers have free electricity and still make a profit.....
Also TNT express delievery is owned by the Dutch poat office, and THL another deleivery servise in england is owned by the German post office.... this takes custome away from the royal mail!!! takin our business
(this was done by the tories not the labours btw)

23% of pensioners live in poverty conditions in the UK today

A teacher cant get sacked for watching hardcore pron, but yet can be sacked for viewin BNP literiture

isylum seekers, if they fail the form which they get given on asylum (which is pretty hard to do, even timmy street could do it) they get paided to go back to thier country of ethnic origin..... this amounts equates to 24 times the average annual salary in Iraq or Iran, andd you the tax payer are payin for it.... this can build homes and business.... seekers come over to fail the form so they can get money to take back home.. (easy days work to me) in a couple of minutes you can get 24 times your YEARLY ANNUAL SALARY by failin an assylm form!! PATHETIC!!!

Isylum, the orignal principle is- "Isylum seekers have the right to write refuge in the 1st safe country BORDERING THIERS when they are fleeing legal persecution." i did not know that iran iraq borders england....... weird

how come black people are an ethnic minority, and where not??????

there are all these lies and faults in the way the country in run....... these are only SOME.... and i MEAN SOME of the BNPs arguments, politicians wont argue with Nick Griffin becuase thier scared of him, not because hes rasist......... they know hes right, and they know if he gets televised ect... he will be in power in the next eleection and thier trying to stop him......

my opinion again.....

I refuse to indulge in a battle of wits with an un-armed opponent!!

Has anyone got a b0l0x to English translator that I can use??

p/t bnp : Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:58 am  

Well the BNP supporters post is not just full of spelling mistakes (ok I should talk) it is also full of made up facts. Well if you want to believe that sort of stuff and they get elected I expect it won,t be long before they are knocking on my door. Or more likely knocking it down.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:37 am  

I reside in both England and France my electricity is supplied by EDF in both countries, the unit price for my electricity in England is cheaper than that charged in France.

Re: p/t bnp : Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:41 am  

frankb wrote:

Well the BNP supporters post is not just full of spelling mistakes (ok I should talk) it is also full of made up facts. Well if you want to believe that sort of stuff and they get elected I expect it won,t be long before they are knocking on my door. Or more likely knocking it down.

But even a half-wit would have the intelligence to add spell-check to google toolbar

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:57 am  

Playing devils advocate, he has simply listed the fears of a growing percentage of the UK population that the ruling parties have failed to address.
A mainstream party that takes on board some of these concerns will walk the next election because Brits arent racist by nature, but when we feel pd on we tend to fight back hard, and plenty decent folk are not happy with the ghettos that have arisen and the perceived preferential treatment of immigrants/asylum seekers.
Personally I feel we need to exit the Human Rights charter (?) asap, restrict legal aid for terrorists/asylum seekers etc and adopt a US style policy for migrants.
Anyone wanting to come to the UK for the right reasons, and provided we are able to take them, should be welcomed.

[Dick Jones]

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:27 am  

Bet they cant get in Aussie