: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:53 pm  

Tyldesley NO1 Leyther wrote:

The hysteria, prejudice and lack of understanding on this thread is insane. If you think the BNP are even half sensible take ten minutes to read their manifesto. If you still think they're sensible then your an idiot and a racist.

British jobs for British workers or Leigh jobs for Leigh workers is an idea that is illegal and wouldnt work. Why discriminate against immigrant workers. The best person should get the job. Immigrants make a net contribution of hundreds of millions of pounds to the British economy.

As for the disgraceful sinking of hundreds of asylum seekers in Australia, if you think thats right and not fascist then you should get your head examined

Student union, socialist worker which one. When you get older and exposed to reality your views will change.
Do unto others my mate quoted above, something I firmly believe in, although his slant will be slightly different.

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:02 pm  

Tyldesley NO1 Leyther wrote:

British jobs for British workers or Leigh jobs for Leigh workers is an idea that is illegal and wouldnt work. Why discriminate against immigrant workers. The best person should get the job. Immigrants make a net contribution of hundreds of millions of pounds to the British economy.

Just becuase it may be illegal does not make it immoral. Given the choice of employing a Leyther or migrant, both of same standard, the Leyther gets it every time for me. If that makes me racist then fetch me some jackboots.

Anyway, at least I now I know where to send my kids if they ever get hungry.

I'm sure you wont mind taking what little might be on your own kids plate and giving it to mine.

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:03 pm  

sex on legs wrote:

Student union, socialist worker which one. When you get older and exposed to reality your views will change.

I didnt want to be as blunt as that, he's a good lad really

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:25 pm  

Until very recently the only people who would take shift work at one of my production facilities in Ireland were Polish (I mean every single one!) as natives were either in comfortable jobs in the local pharmaceutical industry or happy to claim benefits. The lads have worked really hard, covering extra hours as necessary and with an excellent attendence record.
Now the pharma industry in the region has contracted and a number of people have lost their jobs what should I do? Kick out those who have been working all hours over the past couple of years to give the jobs to people who didn't want them 6 months ago?
I don't think so!

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:26 pm  

sex on legs wrote:

Student union, socialist worker which one. When you get older and exposed to reality your views will change.
Do unto others my mate quoted above, something I firmly believe in, although his slant will be slightly different.

Yeah I'm a student and a socialist, though I'm not sure throwing the labels around is a good way to disguise you being unable to question what I wrote

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:45 pm  

Tyldesley NO1 Leyther wrote:

Yeah I'm a student and a socialist, though I'm not sure throwing the labels around is a good way to disguise you being unable to question what I wrote

Nor is burying your head in the sand and ignoring the long term and real life social consequences of an open door policy whilst at the same time labelling those who question it as idiotic racists.

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:50 pm  

Alexs Dad wrote:

Nor is burying your head in the sand and ignoring the long term and real life social consequences of an open door policy whilst at the same time labelling those who question it as idiotic racists.

I think all the main political parties have ignored many concerns of working people (though not on immigration). I feel too often they have failed to articulate the nature of the global economy in which we live, they have failed to invest in broken communities, in education. They have not done enough to address social problems, to get people off benefits and they have failed to spread the success of Britains economy to the have-nots. I believe the BNP successfully play on these concerns and are an attractive prospect if you listen to only a smidge of what they say. I dont think an unemployed worker who feels let down is a racist for thinking the BNP make sense on some issues. Yet if they research there policies and still decide to vote for them, I think they are a racist and an idiot. The BNP play on prejudice, on many peoples mistrust of people from other countries and immigrants

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:13 pm  

Tyldesley NO1 Leyther wrote:

I think all the main political parties have ignored many concerns of working people (though not on immigration). I feel too often they have failed to articulate the nature of the global economy in which we live, they have failed to invest in broken communities, in education. They have not done enough to address social problems, to get people off benefits and they have failed to spread the success of Britains economy to the have-nots. I believe the BNP successfully play on these concerns and are an attractive prospect if you listen to only a smidge of what they say. I dont think an unemployed worker who feels let down is a racist for thinking the BNP make sense on some issues. Yet if they research there policies and still decide to vote for them, I think they are a racist and an idiot. The BNP play on prejudice, on many peoples mistrust of people from other countries and immigrants

Personally I find it abhorant that the BNP prey on the emotionally and financially vunerable in times like this. Throughout history, when times are bad, the flagwaving extremists appear from all corners of the politcal and religeous spectrum.

Equally, I dont care too much for those who think that anyone who dares question immigration policy is an ignorant racist Nazi. They are as dim as the facists who think all would be good if Britain was pure and white.

However, who is wrong?

The BNP for bringing these issues to the dinner table, or the others for repeatedly ignoring them?

[mish]

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:19 pm  

I don't understand why these anti-BNP protesters feel it's necessary to follow them around, look at the press coverage they've give the BNP now, they should just let them get on with it.
You couldn't pay for this kind of publicity especially as it's one of their own who was injured. If they just let them get on with it, maybe a couple of people will listen to their message but as it stands I'm listening about this in the news and reading about it in all the local forums!

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:14 pm  

THIS WAS IN MY INBOX


ENGLAND



I think this really sums it all up.



After hearing that many cities did not want to offend other cultures by putting up Christmas lights, so we DIDN'T!

After hearing that theBirminghamCouncil changed its opinion -- and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face COVERED.



After hearing of a Primary School inBirmingham, where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football League shirts -- Aston Villa,Birmingham,West Brom, etc, but NOT an Englandshirt, as it could offend others !



This prompted the editorial below, written by a UKcitizen, and published in a British tabloid newspaper:


IMMIGRANTS, NOT BRITONS, MUST ADAPT.

Take it or leave it.

I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks onLondon , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits.

However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled, and the 'politically correct' crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming toBritain.

However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.

This idea ofEngland being a multicultural centre for community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity.

As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories, fought by the untold masses of men and women who laid down their lives, and of the millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speakENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the English language!

If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.

If St George'sCross offends you, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.




We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change -- and we really don't care how you did things where you came from.



This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.



But once you are done complaining, whining and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, then I encourage you take advantage of one other great British freedom -- THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.



We didn't force you to come here.

If you don't like it, GO HOME!!



You asked to be here.

So accept the country that accepted YOU.

Pretty easy really, when you think about it.