According to itv teletext Paul Cullen admits he faces a " long term fight " to " fix the problems behind the scenes " oh dear whats gone wrong there then anybody know?

Come on, it's not taken a genius to work out that the club isn't right. The club has relaxed into thinking that they deserve to do well, when we all know that this division takes nothing but hard work.

I now know why we've underachieved (IMO) in the last few years, and it seems that Cull is the only honest person in the last couple of years to pipe up and say/do something about it.

I reckon the chairman there has said listen enough is enough, I'm not putting further money in.

They don't pay for an away video crew

Theyve knocked aftermatch spas and all kinds of peripherial things on the head.

They have now come out and said they have just 9 full time pros in their squad of 27. It was all we are full time pro in the close season which raised expectation levels.

They have released one member of the squad (Loz Wildbore) and have 4 loaned elsewhere.

They have TKL - enough said.

John Stankevitch has now left them and Mick Cassidy has returned.

Paul Cullen was obviously not impressed by what he's seen but then again his own record is less than impressive. For me that Widnes side was a solid squad and should have been doing a lot better.

Widnes did ok when John Stankevitch was in temporary charge.

This is what I thought too...

I think in time he'll become a very good coach will John.

The sqaud deffinately looks good on paper so was expecting them to do better regardless of behind the scenes troubles but this is'nt the case ,did'nt know stankevitch had gone was that when Cullen arrived?

No he's gone in the last couple of days.

Think it's harsh on him to be fair although I understand he was on a full time contract there and Widnes wanted to make the post part time so no wonder he left.

This is a tough division - alot tougher than many might think.

This year, it is Halifax and Barrows turn at the top...next yera it will be someone else.

Has Widnes put all their eggs in 1 basket maybe the the folk who moaned about our team and the fact we did'nt "sign" anyone big {name wise } except for Donlan should be glad as we could have been in the same situation (hopefully we are ok )

You hope!

Seriously, you're just not listening are you!

The call for full time was made after we lost the licence, before the finance change. Plus, you can't neccessarily sign a full time squad as not all players want to be full time, this was the case with alot of players we signed.

The main problem we've had this year is players attitudes and the fact that we bizarrly don't train together, something Cull is rectifying, hence the release of Wildbore as he lives and works in Hull (not financial). The fact that we not train in the evenings means that the assistant coach role is part time, in these times you can't pay someone a good wage when they're not required for most of the time (not financial).

You fail to mention that we are actually signing people on loan and employing people (Cassidy) for roles within the club, so how are we doing this if the chairman isn't putting money into the club?

The club was poorly organised by the previous coach and it's something that will take time. I think Cull can only be admired for being so bold to make these major changes.

How can signing players on load be a sign of stability? They may only be there for a month? Workington have just signed loads of players on loan and i wouldnt imagine that people think that they are a stable club currently. Is SOC getting cold feet? Promised to kepp the squad full time then goes back on his word. Sacking coaches, Bringing in one that doesnt appear to be any good. Might have have the Championship version of Newcastle Utd on our hands.