The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:39 pm  

We hear and to be fair see the numbers of people participating in the game in London, how are the Broncos, the RFL and BARLA not connecting the dots and working with each other to get the fans in, where is the disconnect? How can so many people play the game yet they can't attract even 1/20th of the people playing ?

I made a joke on another thread but then I thought some more.

A 4 game festival of rugby with Broncos, Skolars, Stags and maybe Oxford all playing one after another.
Maybe this isn't the thing to do and isn't viable but do something rather than just letting it fade out with a whimper.

Even actually trying to find out reasons the people of London who love RL, won't watch London.

Loving do something rather than hoping Costner and his field of dreams attitude will eventually win over.

Re: The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:50 pm  

The same reason many London based fans who attended the Big Hit at Wembley don't turn up, the travel, the cost and the quality on offer.

Re: The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:33 pm  

Moe Lester wrote:

The same reason many London based fans who attended the Big Hit at Wembley don't turn up, the travel, the cost and the quality on offer.

you could also add clash of kick off times, attitude of management to fans.

Re: The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:54 pm  

They aren't linked, how many players and volunteers go and watch Workington and Whitehaven? Not many. Players and volunteers are already heavily involved with another club, most pro-club's fans surely come from the wider local community?

Re: The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:55 pm  

Tre Cool wrote:

They aren't linked, how many players and volunteers go and watch Workington and Whitehaven? Not many. Players and volunteers are already heavily involved with another club, most pro-club's fans surely come from the wider local community?

Correct, there is no link between playing and watching, in the hotbeds of the sport it can be just the same , I have had many ' discussions' with fans and administration about the waste of resources targeting junior players rather than watchers

Re: The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:15 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Correct, there is no link between playing and watching, in the hotbeds of the sport it can be just the same , I have had many ' discussions' with fans and administration about the waste of resources targeting junior players rather than watchers

But the Amateur Clubs and players are a pretty important network if you want to spread the word for little expenditure.
I've filled a few arenas in the last couple of years by getting the local schools and clubs to sell tickets and keep half the take. All but 1 game is already fully booked for this season.
Amazing what you can achieve if you engage these clubs/schools in a positive way. I have some businesses actually sponsoring groups of kids by paying for busses to get them to and from the games....locals want to get involved whereas 2 or 3 years ago, nobody cared.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying is would work for RL in London, but I'd hazard a guess that if you gave the Hammersmith Hoists 1,000 Hive tickets to sell at a score each and told them that they could keep 10k if they shifted them all, you'd get very few back "unsold" and the Hoists would have enough funds to cover their yearly overseas trip.......what are the chances Hemel, Oxford or even the Skolars wouldn't mind a piece of that sort of funding either?

It's all about vision, communication and hard work...lots and lots of hard work.

Re: The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:37 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

But the Amateur Clubs and players are a pretty important network if you want to spread the word for little expenditure.
I've filled a few arenas in the last couple of years by getting the local schools and clubs to sell tickets and keep half the take. All but 1 game is already fully booked for this season.
Amazing what you can achieve if you engage these clubs/schools in a positive way. I have some businesses actually sponsoring groups of kids by paying for busses to get them to and from the games....locals want to get involved whereas 2 or 3 years ago, nobody cared.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying is would work for RL in London, but I'd hazard a guess that if you gave the Hammersmith Hoists 1,000 Hive tickets to sell at a score each and told them that they could keep 10k if they shifted them all, you'd get very few back "unsold" and the Hoists would have enough funds to cover their yearly overseas trip.......what are the chances Hemel, Oxford or even the Skolars wouldn't mind a piece of that sort of funding either?

It's all about vision, communication and hard work...lots and lots of hard work.

That's exactly the way to go - although maybe 25 per cent to the clubs. The hard work is then delegated.

Re: The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:42 pm  

Even if you had a club involved the CEO would come along and put a spanner in the works.

Re: The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:57 pm  

I'm not saying you dont chase them, just that dont expect the return on investement to be any higher than non players, in fact at Championship level in the heartlands like Leigh you generally find the juniors and more specifically their coaches gravitate towards the local SL clubs, they know full well what is going on at the LSV, they just dont put value on it, compared to Wigan,Wire and Saints

Re: The disconnect between the amateur fans and the Broncos : Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:00 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

But the Amateur Clubs and players are a pretty important network if you want to spread the word for little expenditure.
I've filled a few arenas in the last couple of years by getting the local schools and clubs to sell tickets and keep half the take. All but 1 game is already fully booked for this season.
Amazing what you can achieve if you engage these clubs/schools in a positive way. I have some businesses actually sponsoring groups of kids by paying for busses to get them to and from the games....locals want to get involved whereas 2 or 3 years ago, nobody cared.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying is would work for RL in London, but I'd hazard a guess that if you gave the Hammersmith Hoists 1,000 Hive tickets to sell at a score each and told them that they could keep 10k if they shifted them all, you'd get very few back "unsold" and the Hoists would have enough funds to cover their yearly overseas trip.......what are the chances Hemel, Oxford or even the Skolars wouldn't mind a piece of that sort of funding either?

It's all about vision, communication and hard work...lots and lots of hard work.

Hoists? Spawn of the Devil!!!