: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:43 pm  

ExiledFromHull wrote:

YET i find myself agreeing with some BNP policies.

bad luck

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:47 pm  

I wouldnt say bad luck, id say that it makes sense!

When an illegal immigrant with no insurance, no tax, no driving licence and 3 times over the limit kills a British soldier who's served 2 tours - and then decides to go underground - then id be asking how the hell this guy used our system to continually appeal his deportation, yet does something like that!

In the context of this thread, a foreign criminal is still a foreign criminal.
Those rules cant be bent!

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:53 pm  

ExiledFromHull wrote:

I wouldnt say bad luck, id say that it makes sense!

When an illegal immigrant with no insurance, no tax, no driving licence and 3 times over the limit kills a British soldier who's served 2 tours - and then decides to go underground - then id be asking how the hell this guy used our system to continually appeal his deportation, yet does something like that!

In the context of this thread, a foreign criminal is still a foreign criminal.
Those rules cant be bent!

except you're talking about an illegal immigrant. Which has nothing to do with rugby league, where the current problems stem from new UK Border Agency regulations regarding visas and the points system etc.

Make your mind up. Not that I don't find your rambling delightful.

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:59 pm  

Yeah.....sorry.....realised i went on a ramble!

The context of Rugby league is that the new border laws have been set up to stop high risk individuals entering the country.

Non EU nationals with criminal records would fall into this category!

So what are the Home Office meant to do?
What makes Adam Crocker any different to a Somalian Pirate or Nicuraguan Cocaine smuggler.

They still tick all the same boxes!

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:02 pm  

ExiledFromHull wrote:

So what are the Home Office meant to do?
What makes Adam Crocker any different to a Somalian Pirate or Nicuraguan Cocaine smuggler.

If they stereotyped as well as you we wouldn't get any foreign nationals in at all.

Oh and by the way, viz this obession with Somalians: You try leading a normal, straight-and-narrow life when you live in a lawless, dirt-poor country gripped by civil war. Unfortunately there isn't a professional hockey league there in which they can all excel.

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:12 pm  

PENGUIN

I fully agree its wrong that people like Bird and Crocker are put in this category.
1 bar room brawl in Sydney or Brisbane and suddenly your career in a foreign country is in tatters.

I agree with the original poster - but im just playing Devils Advocate.

As it stands i cant go to America or Australia for work.
So can understand as i was once a pro hockey player.

Im just saying that people want this country to be tougher - but we must also accept the 'cons' that go with the 'pro's'

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:36 pm  

I fully agree. You can't have your cake and eat it as the old expression once said!! We can't have tough immigration laws to stop people taking the p*ss in the UK and expect them to allow players and those who exceed the threshold set out to come into the Uk.

Probably one of the more interesting post subjects on this forum for a while....not one person has complained about what the club "should be doing"....amazing!!

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:14 pm  

Personally we have enough talent and enthusiasm in this country to be world class.

i mean, those cyclists, swimmers and rowers appeared from nowhere!
But they were always there, they just needed the right management and facilities!

How badly do these players want it - im a Hull fan and ive seen talent wasted on numerous occasions.
Why, cos its easy, get paid a fortune, stay at home with your mates, be the big hard man in your town, women off your arm and not a guy man enough to touch you.

Yet become just another sportsmen (i.e. Australia) and they suddenly become great!

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:52 pm  

ExiledFromHull wrote:

PENGUIN
As it stands i cant go to America or Australia for work.
So can understand as i was once a pro hockey player.

banned from the New Nations....just coz you played hockey

: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:18 pm  

banned from working there.
Had a pro contract in Australia and a contract to coach at North Carolina.

REFUSED!!!!!