Re: Going, going, gone? : Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:00 am  

Looks like today is the big day - hint on HKR non-rlfans board from a fan who works at Broncos and looks like he needs to leave. The phrase "may be well before the end of the season" was used... Interesting times.

Re: Going, going, gone? : Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:42 am  

Let's be fair. Stick to what we actually know and not what people summise or guess and make up as to what's happening.

One thing is that London have always incredibly quiet on things like signing players and who they sign. That is the only fact that we all know.

Apart from that, if you think that Tony Rea is not looking round to recruit for next season, you must be barking.

Re: Going, going, gone? : Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:04 am  

Fair enough RB, I hope the rumour comes to nothing myself

There is certainly some decent talent in the NSW Cup and Queensland Cup, and those guys are affordable as not on a lot of money down here with the 2nd tier cap. Couple of years in SL might give them a 2nd shot at the NRL. Likewise in the U20s if you could strike a deal with an NRL club to become a development pathway (get decent quality game time without taking up their cap space, given concerns here that good U20s are being brought into first grade too early / undercooked). An English club that took a progressive approach at partnership with the genuine global first tier comp, rather than saw the downside of all the extra TV money in the game now, could really gain some competitive advantage in the UK comp I reckon.

I'm sure that's the way Leneghan is looking at it for one (and what he's done with the Wales talent pipeline at Wigan is another example of seeing strategic opportunity where others only saw the negative of Crusaders top tier demise - if only we still had the benefit of that vision...)

Re: Going, going, gone? : Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:19 am  

Hull Kingston Bronco wrote:

There is certainly some decent talent in the NSW Cup and Queensland Cup, and those guys are affordable as not on a lot of money down here with the 2nd tier cap.

I thought with immigration changes we couldn't recruit players who hadn't played NRL in past two seasons or something?

Re: Going, going, gone? : Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:31 am  

wire quin wrote:

I couldn't care less where Sargy is going he has been terrible. Can't tackle head on, utterly useless.

I partly agree with this. Sarginson's 1-on-1 defence is close to embarrassing.

However, his defence is substantially better one in from centre where he does more work but gets some protection. Which begs the question, why have successive coaches exposed his defence at left centre?

He has been handled abysmally. He could make it somewhere else with a bit of TLC.

Re: Going, going, gone? : Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:32 am  

Colly2 wrote:

I partly agree with this. Sarginson's 1-on-1 defence is close to embarrassing.

However, his defence is substantially better one in from centre where he does more work but gets some protection. Which begs the question, why have successive coaches exposed his defence at left centre?

He has been handled abysmally. He could make it somewhere else with a bit of TLC.

Fully agree he started well but has faded which for me proves the current coach is no better than the last one! with right coaching and encouragement he can deliver for me!

Re: Going, going, gone? : Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:12 am  

Hull Kingston Bronco wrote:

Fair enough RB, I hope the rumour comes to nothing myself

There is certainly some decent talent in the NSW Cup and Queensland Cup, and those guys are affordable as not on a lot of money down here with the 2nd tier cap. Couple of years in SL might give them a 2nd shot at the NRL. Likewise in the U20s if you could strike a deal with an NRL club to become a development pathway (get decent quality game time without taking up their cap space, given concerns here that good U20s are being brought into first grade too early / undercooked). An English club that took a progressive approach at partnership with the genuine global first tier comp, rather than saw the downside of all the extra TV money in the game now, could really gain some competitive advantage in the UK comp I reckon.

I'm sure that's the way Leneghan is looking at it for one (and what he's done with the Wales talent pipeline at Wigan is another example of seeing strategic opportunity where others only saw the negative of Crusaders top tier demise - if only we still had the benefit of that vision...)

Does sound like a good idea - and if rules and regs allowed, we should be at least talking to NRL clubs about it.

It does though devalue SL (not that is even close to be honest to the NRL) in that a top tier team (for now anyway!!!) would be taking youngsters from the NRL grade system, giving them experience to then go back and play in a "proper league".

Additionally, it moves away from us trying to produce our own London born-and-bred talent. Something that the club (and RFL) have been piping up about for the last few years.

I'd love to see a creative and rich investor/chairman come in (if and when DH leaves) who can fund and drive us forward. If only we had someone like Gary Hetherington at Leeds.... he is the sort of person we desperately need.

Re: Going, going, gone? : Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:34 am  

Hear Ye! wrote:

I'd love to see a creative and rich investor/chairman come in (if and when DH leaves) who can fund and drive us forward. If only we had someone like Gary Hetherington at Leeds.... he is the sort of person we desperately need.

Paul Caddick is the Owner of both Leeds Rugby Clubs, he is the man with the money!

Re: Going, going, gone? : Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:25 am  

fair point..... Gary Hetherington type for our CEO then.

Re: Going, going, gone? : Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:33 pm  

Hear Ye! wrote:

fair point..... Gary Hetherington type for our CEO then.

Let's face it, Buck or Dusty could probably do a better job than the current bloke.