So why does the union side sell out at least 5 or 6 times a season?

Why does Twickeham usually sell out?

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Don't bother. He won't answer, never does.

it has SFA to do with the location, the name or the union tie in.
it has 100% of 100% to do with NO FEKIN MARKETING

As soon as the penny drops, the club can move forwards....until then

Exactly!!!!!!

The RU club market their product exceptionally well, but I just don't think the model transfers to RL. I don't think we could build a social fanbase to build on those who are purely there for the rugby, which is what the RU club has done. I'm like this, I'll have a beer whilst I'm at the game, but I'm there for the game, the rest is just a bonus.

There is an element of this with the international RU matches, I remember years ago the Director of the department I worked in (ex-public school, ex-Oxford Uni) getting his secretary buy tickets at well over the odds for an England RU international. He didn't have any deep interest in RU beyond the six nations, but those games were important social events for him and his friends.

Well known facts about the social element of big RU events, but it still has sod all to do with the transport infastructure

The transport infrastructure is relevant to Quins RL far more than it is to Quins RU because it doesn't fit neatly into a particular type of affluent local (West London) social scene. At a guess there are probably plenty of hardcore Quins RU fans who'll drag themselves half way round London to watch what's on the field (what's important to them), the social Quins RU fans I'm not so sure about.

I don't know if I'm missing the point here, but there seems to be some misconception about social rugby union attendees (I call them that as they don't go to watch the game - just to drink and talk).

On an average match, I would guess - purely from observation, no facts to back this up - that less than 10% fall into this category.

I think part of the problem is that there are no "local" derbies - home matches against Perpignan and Newport will never generate the same polarisation and support as Quins v L.Irish

or autumn international, the vast majority would not really be club supporters but "social" attendee's, and yup I was a Quins RU supporter in them days when the main games were against Bath and you stood on milk crates behind the sticks to get a good view

1.1 actually and its 0.8 miles from Twickenham Station to Twickenham Stoop

It's in west London which i know for a fact is the most congested part of the capital (yes i have proof of that)

Rubbish. I had to go to north-east London from souh-west London the other Saturday by car and it took 2 hours to do 24 miles. The first half of the journey through the "congested west of London" to 30 minutes. The remaining 12 miles to the north east to 90 minutes.

I have never seen traffic, road works and so many pointless red routes in my life and I have lived in south west London 21 years.


Why have red routes and then allow some parking? The cars just block the route. We followed a bus for two miles and not once did it go in to the red route bus lane because every few hundred yards there was a car parked in an allowable zone.

We all think sometime the RFL and our club mgmt can't organise themselves, well north east Londons traffic planners couldn't organise a glass of fine wine in a vineyard.

Rant over. Back to rugby.