: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:21 pm  

stormingbronco wrote:

I still believe that a major reason for QRL being unable to increase it's attandance is the 'location' of the stadium. A stadium badly served by public transport links might add.

So why does the union side sell out at least 5 or 6 times a season?

Why does Twickeham usually sell out?

Same tranport links

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:25 pm  

SteveQuin wrote:

So why does the union side sell out at least 5 or 6 times a season?

Why does Twickeham usually sell out?

Same tranport links

Don't bother. He won't answer, never does.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:27 pm  

it has SFA to do with the location, the name or the union tie in.
it has 100% of 100% to do with NO FEKIN MARKETING

As soon as the penny drops, the club can move forwards....until then

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:28 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

it has SFA to do with the location, the name or the union tie in.
it has 100% of 100% to do with NO FEKIN MARKETING

As soon as the penny drops, the club can move forwards....until then

Exactly!!!!!!

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:32 pm  

SteveQuin wrote:

So why does the union side sell out at least 5 or 6 times a season?

Why does Twickeham usually sell out?

Same tranport links

The RU club market their product exceptionally well, but I just don't think the model transfers to RL. I don't think we could build a social fanbase to build on those who are purely there for the rugby, which is what the RU club has done. I'm like this, I'll have a beer whilst I'm at the game, but I'm there for the game, the rest is just a bonus.

There is an element of this with the international RU matches, I remember years ago the Director of the department I worked in (ex-public school, ex-Oxford Uni) getting his secretary buy tickets at well over the odds for an England RU international. He didn't have any deep interest in RU beyond the six nations, but those games were important social events for him and his friends.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:35 pm  

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

The RU club market their product exceptionally well, but I just don't think the model transfers to RL. I don't think we could build a social fanbase to build on those who are purely there for the rugby, which is what the RU club has done. I'm like this, I'll have a beer whilst I'm at the game, but I'm there for the game, the rest is just a bonus.

There is an element of this with the international RU matches, I remember years ago the Director of the department I worked in (ex-public school, ex-Oxford Uni) getting his secretary buy tickets at well over the odds for an England RU international. He didn't have any deep interest in RU beyond the six nations, but those games were important social events for him and his friends.

Well known facts about the social element of big RU events, but it still has sod all to do with the transport infastructure

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:10 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

sometimes i think you are deliberately obtuse.

compared to the rest of london it's not great.
compared to rest of the country it's great. Piccadilly line 10 minute bus journey away

It's not on the tube network for a start.See above
It's in west London which i know for a fact is the most congested part of the capital (yes i have proof of that)Debatable

Brentford for instance you can catch a few buses from zone 1 to the old ground at Griffin park 267 GOES PAST BRENTFORD TO TWICKENHAM and the tube station was a short walk away unlike Twickenham with the exception of ONE route out of Hammersmith.Not true
Yes there is the train link but not actually part of the TfL network therefore more expensive.Travelcard zone 5 covers twickenham

It (in regards of London) is probably the worst served area for public transport.No it is not
Compare that to if you played at QPR Not seen the chaos caused by Westfield then

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:25 pm  

Homer wrote:

Well known facts about the social element of big RU events, but it still has sod all to do with the transport infastructure

The transport infrastructure is relevant to Quins RL far more than it is to Quins RU because it doesn't fit neatly into a particular type of affluent local (West London) social scene. At a guess there are probably plenty of hardcore Quins RU fans who'll drag themselves half way round London to watch what's on the field (what's important to them), the social Quins RU fans I'm not so sure about.

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:20 pm  

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

The transport infrastructure is relevant to Quins RL far more than it is to Quins RU because it doesn't fit neatly into a particular type of affluent local (West London) social scene. At a guess there are probably plenty of hardcore Quins RU fans who'll drag themselves half way round London to watch what's on the field (what's important to them), the social Quins RU fans I'm not so sure about.

I don't know if I'm missing the point here, but there seems to be some misconception about social rugby union attendees (I call them that as they don't go to watch the game - just to drink and talk).

On an average match, I would guess - purely from observation, no facts to back this up - that less than 10% fall into this category.

I think part of the problem is that there are no "local" derbies - home matches against Perpignan and Newport will never generate the same polarisation and support as Quins v L.Irish

: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:35 pm  

SteveQuin wrote:

I don't know if I'm missing the point here, but there seems to be some misconception about social rugby union attendees (I call them that as they don't go to watch the game - just to drink and talk).

On an average match, I would guess - purely from observation, no facts to back this up - that less than 10% fall into this category.

I think part of the problem is that there are no "local" derbies - home matches against Perpignan and Newport will never generate the same polarisation and support as Quins v L.Irish

From personal experience this probably relates more to the pre pro game and possibly soem 5 years after, when if you went to Twickenham for a 5 nations [as was] or autumn international, the vast majority would not really be club supporters but "social" attendee's, and yup I was a Quins RU supporter in them days when the main games were against Bath and you stood on milk crates behind the sticks to get a good view