Re: shirt sponsor : Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:31 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

So where is this progress you speak of? A few decent crowds every now and then?

Making the parrallel (sp) between how we had reasonable crowds during certain periods of our history which is pretty much all Celtic have atm.
Cats have managed to grow their fan base but their crowds are not much better than the first time we were at the Stoop.
So the steps they have made have been pretty similar to our SL early years. We started to suffer once we started to move around.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:33 pm  

ExiledFromHull wrote:

LISTER

I think you do enough whinging for all the people.

But that doesn't make him wrong though...

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:34 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

But that doesn't make him wrong though...

Doesnt make him right either

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:34 pm  

Didnt say he was!

Re: shirt sponsor : Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:38 pm  

Darthchris wrote:

Making the parrallel (sp) between how we had reasonable crowds during certain periods of our history which is pretty much all Celtic have atm.
Cats have managed to grow their fan base but their crowds are not much better than the first time we were at the Stoop.
So the steps they have made have been pretty similar to our SL early years. We started to suffer once we started to move around.

What have Celtic and Cats(sic) got to do with our lack of progress? Both totally different cases in different countries, the scenarios are completely different.

Our "reasonable" crowds were VERY isolated.

Re: shirt sponsor : Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:41 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

What have Celtic and Cats(sic) got to do with our lack of progress? Both totally different cases in different countries, the scenarios are completely different.

Our "reasonable" crowds were VERY isolated.

agree.
Was responding to someone saying that if Cats and Celts can do well...

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:47 pm  

Can I wade in with a pedant's oar and implore people to stop calling the Dragons 'cats' - Catalans, or Dragons, please.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:49 pm  

The Penguin wrote:

Can I wade in with a pedant's oar and implore people to stop calling the Dragons 'cats' - Catalans, or Dragons, please.

Is it wrong to call Wakefield Wakey then?

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:49 pm  

Darthchris wrote:

Is it wrong to call Wakefield Wakey then?

No, because thats a nickname their fans use all the time. The above isn't.

Re: shirt sponsor : Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:17 pm  

Darthchris wrote:

Thats kinda the point.

Boring facts. SORRY
The Valley :2001: 41,993 Average 3,230
Griffin Park: 2002: 53,245 Average 3,803 +16% on the valley
Griffin Park: 2003: 49,641 Average 3,545 -7% but still 9% up on the valley
Griffin Park: 2004: 48,449 Average 3,460 -3% but still 7% up on the valley
Griffin Park: 2005; 56,047 Average 4,003 +15% and 23% up on the valley
The Stoop: 2006: 60,842 Average 4,345 + 8% on GP and 34% on TV
The Stoop: 2007: 44,596 Average 3,428 - 22% but down 15% on GP, but up 6% on TV
The Stoop: 2008: 50,821 Average 3,909. +14%, but down 3% on GP but up 21% on TV

So, the move from the valley to griffin park, over 4 years saw us increase crowds by 23% and reach the play-offs twice.
The same result is not possible at Quins because we have finished 7/9/9/ and would need an average of 5,344 per game this year to increase our average from GP 2005 by 23%.

In short, we have increase our attendance by 700 fans per game since 2001. That's 100 new regulars a year and will see us hit 5,000 by 2020.