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Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:55 pm  
Copied from the paper today

" The RFL made a loss of £327,000 in 2018, which it says was largely due to the low crowd for the Challenge cup final. The governing body anticipated returning to profit after losing £2,000,000 in 2017, when it paid out a significant six figure sum to facilitate the exit of Chief Executive Nigel Wood and Chief Commercial Officer Roger Draper. Those hopes were scuppered when Catalans reached Wembley and took around 5000 fans with them resulting in an attendance of 50,672 the lowest for a generation.

I thought fat Nige left the RFL to become CEO of the world cup why did he and his mate get a very large pay off? Talk about jobs for the boys which the game can not afford.
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Re: Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:23 am  
Why indeed after dragging the game backwards. This has been hushed up and still the monkeys at the top of the tree think getting Toronto and other far flung nations involved in the english league is a good thing. I agree we need to expand the game but through sustainable progression. Most team fans can afford an occassional trip away but they cannot afford year on year therefore we are not connecting fully with north america. We need to put more effort into growing the game here and not worry at this precise time about abroad. After all USA have a world cup series where only america teams enter, we should copy their example and market, market, market the game here. Also a 14 team SL would seem a whole lot more sensible than playing some teams 3 / 4 times a season. Expand here and repair the damage which has been done by those with the pay off . I cannot see how those two grew the game or how Nigel Wood got another top job when it is very clear fans are switiching off and he failed.
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Re: Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:14 pm  
wantawin wrote:
Copied from the paper today

" The RFL made a loss of £327,000 in 2018, which it says was largely due to the low crowd for the Challenge cup final. The governing body anticipated returning to profit after losing £2,000,000 in 2017, when it paid out a significant six figure sum to facilitate the exit of Chief Executive Nigel Wood and Chief Commercial Officer Roger Draper. Those hopes were scuppered when Catalans reached Wembley and took around 5000 fans with them resulting in an attendance of 50,672 the lowest for a generation.

I thought fat Nige left the RFL to become CEO of the world cup why did he and his mate get a very large pay off? Talk about jobs for the boys which the game can not afford.


I assume this is the same Roger Draper who used to work at Broncos (or earlier incarnation). Can't remember him doing much then either.
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Re: Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:08 am  
Roger Draper came to us at Warrington from Wimbledon LTA & after about 2 years moved to the RFL. He must be a serial golden handshaker.
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Re: Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:15 am  
As for expanding the league ,the most important start for that is to get a strong London club ,even though you are only in the suburbs at present . The likes of Toronto ,New York & any future overseas capital sides would see London more as a playing venue than ,say Wakefield or HKR on a wet & windy night. As a capital city London is more on their wavelength.
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Re: Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:49 pm  
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As for expanding the league ,the most important start for that is to get a strong London club ,even though you are only in the suburbs at present . The likes of Toronto ,New York & any future overseas capital sides would see London more as a playing venue than ,say Wakefield or HKR on a wet & windy night. As a capital city London is more on their wavelength.


Doubt anything on this planet is on the same wavelength as the dim & deluded RL Board. Just look at the Challenge Cup semi-finals. Height of ambition is to fill a 28700 capacity stadium with 3 of the 4 teams among the best we have. Not even sure they have achieved even that, time will tell.

I see from the excellent publication Touch & Go by Dave Farrar, Peter Lush & Michael O'Hare that Roger Draper left the development side of the club 94/95 season to go to the LTA. Even managed 1 sub appearance!!
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Re: Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:01 pm  
On the idiocy of the RFL why would anyone think it is plausible to PAY to hire a FOOTBALL club for the triple header. London and Catalan are too far away to be considered for this. Castleford, Hull, St Helens, Leeds, Warrington Halifax could not be considered as it needs to be neutral territory however this leaves Wakefield, Salford, Wigan and Huddersfield to choose from. Any one of these could have been chosen and paid to host and the gate money divided between all teams or put into marketing or development. Instead we pay another sport to stage our games - PATHETIC. Also noticed how few fans were there, at best it was half full. Year on year attendances are getting worse and we need to do something about it but the RFL in their infinite wisdom cannot see there is a problem and waste money outside our sport instead of investing in it
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Re: Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:33 pm  
Both Wigan and Huddersfield’s grounds are football grounds, they are not owned by the RL clubs, we would still be paying another sport to stage our games.

I’d imagine there was a tender and bidding process (you would hope) and Bolton was the most attractive proposition.
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Re: Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:04 pm  
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Both Wigan and Huddersfield’s grounds are football grounds, they are not owned by the RL clubs, we would still be paying another sport to stage our games.

I’d imagine there was a tender and bidding process (you would hope) and Bolton was the most attractive proposition.


First time i've ever heard Bolton described as an attractive proposition! :lol:
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Re: Is this why the RFL is not fit for purpose : Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:22 pm  
Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
Both Wigan and Huddersfield’s grounds are football grounds, they are not owned by the RL clubs, we would still be paying another sport to stage our games.

I’d imagine there was a tender and bidding process (you would hope) and Bolton was the most attractive proposition.

Why did they need all the games at one venue Warington could have used for the St Helens v Halifax game and Leeds could have used for the Warington v Hull game.
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