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Triple header Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:09 pm  

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Re: Triple header Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:47 am  
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Here's hoping no St Helens or Toronto fans have booked a weekend in London if the game shifts to Newcastle.....
Re: Triple header Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:41 am  

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Can't see Broncos management getting on the case with this can you? It would be great if they could, but I don't see it somehow.
Newcastle can probably spot a good opportunity and make something out of it given the chance.
As for London, we have a history of missed opportunities.
Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number--
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you--
Ye are many -- they are few.'

Percy Bysshe Shelley - 'The Mask of Anarchy'

'And when I get that feeling I watch
Broncos in Ealing'

Marvin Gaye - 'Sexual Ealing'
Re: Triple header Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:59 am  

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Yesterday they were saying it will happen in London they didn’t specify Ealing
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Re: Triple header Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:55 am  

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RfE wrote:
Can't see Broncos management getting on the case with this can you? It would be great if they could, but I don't see it somehow.
Newcastle can probably spot a good opportunity and make something out of it given the chance.
As for London, we have a history of missed opportunities.


How is it a good opportunity for London Broncos?

Firstly, Broncos would be playing a regular home game, their gate receipts are the only thing they financially gain on a game day, so do not want to be sharing this with Toronto and Skolars. You can argue all you like about the millions of Toronto/Sonny Bill fans in London that will flock but when this happens you will see virtually the same gate that London got against St Helens last year. I would actually be surprised if as many Saints fans bother given the fact they came twice last year. Skolars? Well their fan base is made up of many Broncos fans so there is another problem, their cash is being split by two clubs and both clubs lose out.

Secondly, there will be an increase in costs to the hosts. Toronto have a habit of enjoying hospitality and not paying for it (take me to court Vickers if it is not true :D ) and on top of that there will be 4 extra sets of directors to accommodate in terms of food and drink as well as seating. That is before you start adding up the costs of Doctors etc.

Taking into account that the club were making reasonably small profits on game days last year in comparison to the Northern SL clubs, why is it a 'good opportunity' for Broncos to host this? SKY wont show their game and if you think anyone in London really cares about seeing an over the hill ex NRL player in Sonny Bill then you're asking the wrong people. I doubt 99.9999% of the population in London would go and watch this game if it was free, hence the reason it is moving.

I've no doubt Broncos will step in and do a good job but lets not pretend it is anything other than 3 games being played at a RU ground in West London because one of the 6 teams thinks it is gods gift to the game.

Lets not forget that Toronto still owe London money for the MPG so they are unlikely to be coughing up for bills on that day as the 'hosts' are they?
Re: Triple header Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:45 pm  

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How is it a good opportunity for London Broncos?

Firstly, Broncos would be playing a regular home game, their gate receipts are the only thing they financially gain on a game day, so do not want to be sharing this with Toronto and Skolars. You can argue all you like about the millions of Toronto/Sonny Bill fans in London that will flock but when this happens you will see virtually the same gate that London got against St Helens last year. I would actually be surprised if as many Saints fans bother given the fact they came twice last year. Skolars? Well their fan base is made up of many Broncos fans so there is another problem, their cash is being split by two clubs and both clubs lose out.

Secondly, there will be an increase in costs to the hosts. Toronto have a habit of enjoying hospitality and not paying for it (take me to court Vickers if it is not true :D ) and on top of that there will be 4 extra sets of directors to accommodate in terms of food and drink as well as seating. That is before you start adding up the costs of Doctors etc.

Taking into account that the club were making reasonably small profits on game days last year in comparison to the Northern SL clubs, why is it a 'good opportunity' for Broncos to host this? SKY wont show their game and if you think anyone in London really cares about seeing an over the hill ex NRL player in Sonny Bill then you're asking the wrong people. I doubt 99.9999% of the population in London would go and watch this game if it was free, hence the reason it is moving.

I've no doubt Broncos will step in and do a good job but lets not pretend it is anything other than 3 games being played at a RU ground in West London because one of the 6 teams thinks it is gods gift to the game.

Lets not forget that Toronto still owe London money for the MPG so they are unlikely to be coughing up for bills on that day as the 'hosts' are they?



One word - PUBLICITY.

But maybe you're right, we shouldn't bother taking a chance , maybe even speculating a bit because as we all know we're better off as London sport's best kept secret? :roll:

Regarding your final point - if the Wolfies owe us money then why haven't we taken them to court to get it back?
Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number--
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you--
Ye are many -- they are few.'

Percy Bysshe Shelley - 'The Mask of Anarchy'

'And when I get that feeling I watch
Broncos in Ealing'

Marvin Gaye - 'Sexual Ealing'
Re: Triple header Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:02 pm  

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Thought sonny bill was going to be the big draw for converts to rugby league, are the RU lot not going to flock to whichever ground to watch him?
If there are going to be 3 games on in london on the same weekend makes sense to try and collaborate.
Sheffield ain't going to bring many, neither are skolars opponents.
First game against toronto for saints may encourage a decent following wherever its played, question would be how the gate is split
Re: Triple header Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:54 pm  

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RfE wrote:
One word - PUBLICITY.

But maybe you're right, we shouldn't bother taking a chance , maybe even speculating a bit because as we all know we're better off as London sport's best kept secret? :roll:

Regarding your final point - if the Wolfies owe us money then why haven't we taken them to court to get it back?

Publicity where? :lol:

Trust me, nobody other than rugby league fans will give a flying fig about this game or Williams.

On your second point, the same reason us, Kappa, 3 player agents, 3 other clubs, a car rental company and several players haven't taken them to court. They are a shadowy operation trading under several companies across two countries. Very difficult and expensive.
Re: Triple header Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:11 pm  

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Well SBW is creating his own publicity! Apparently refusing to wear a shirt with the sponsors name on it. Does that mean he will not play on grounds that have betfred hoardings up? Gonna be a quiet season for him.
As for clubs that are owed money from TWP if that is the actual case, that's an issue that the RFL should be managing
Re: Triple header Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:29 pm  

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northernbloke wrote:
Well SBW is creating his own publicity! Apparently refusing to wear a shirt with the sponsors name on it. Does that mean he will not play on grounds that have betfred hoardings up? Gonna be a quiet season for him.
As for clubs that are owed money from TWP if that is the actual case, that's an issue that the RFL should be managing


You don't expect those clowns to have an answer do you?

They have managed to make the wankpack untouchable. Invitational club that does not get central funding and now plays in a comp the RFL have hardly any control over. I would not be surprised if they owe the RFL cash too!
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