Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 2:57 pm  

nikos wrote:

don't get me wrong, that one was great try but more down to his amazing pace

Sorry if it's been said stopped reading at this post

Sam has not got 'amazing pace' he is quick dont get me wrong but there are quiet a few players in sl who are quicker than Sam

The problem for other teams and what makes Sam so good is his foot work and turn of pace of a standing mark which puts these faster players off balance and that is where he gets the edge, every coach in sl will have watched tapes over and over again of Sam but they cant do anything cause 90% of the time it's off the cuff even our players dont know what he's going to do

Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 3:00 pm  

Barmy Salami wrote:

I rate Billy Slater as the best in the world, but I wouldn't swap Sam,for him or anybody at this moment in time.

There's many players in the NRL who are better but I'm the same Sam is ours and he plays his heart out for us wouldn't have any one else over him, legend in the making.

Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 3:03 pm  

king warrior wrote:

Sorry if it's been said stopped reading at this post

Sam has not got 'amazing pace' he is quick dont get me wrong but there are quiet a few players in sl who are quicker than Sam

The problem for other teams and what makes Sam so good is his foot work and turn of pace of a standing mark which puts these faster players off balance and that is where he gets the edge, every coach in sl will have watched tapes over and over again of Sam but they cant do anything cause 90% of the time it's off the cuff even our players dont know what he's going to do

That's my take on it. He's quick enough not to get caught from behind (generally), but he's not lightning quick. The difference is his change of direction and balance - nobody can keep up with it. He's also deceptively strong which helps him shrug off challenges.

As we all know he's a special player.

Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 3:17 pm  

P-J wrote:

That's my take on it. He's quick enough not to get caught from behind (generally), but he's not lightning quick. The difference is his change of direction and balance - nobody can keep up with it. He's also deceptively strong which helps him shrug off challenges.

As we all know he's a special player.

added to that is Sam's speed of thought process, he can spot a gap by the minute movement of the opposition defenders and react to it instictively. He beats defenders also by his own body movement, a drop of the shoulder or a swerve of the hips opens up a gap for him also.

Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 3:21 pm  

I was out for a beer or three a couple of weeks ago at a well known real ale pub in Wigan. A member of our group, who like me has been watching Wigan a long long time said that Sam was the best fullback he has ever seen at Wigan. I thought about the likes of Tyrer, Fairbairn, Griffiths, Ashby, Lydon, Radders etc and do you know what, it's very hard to disagree with him.

Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 3:32 pm  

Pieman wrote:

Wellens is the best fullback in the world according to our sky experts

So how come the Wigan fullback beats him every time? ^^

Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 3:51 pm  

Norwegian_Warrior wrote:

So how come the Wigan fullback beats him every time? ^^

your asking the wrong person

Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 4:02 pm  

TrentBarrett wrote:

There's many players in the NRL who are better but I'm the same Sam is ours and he plays his heart out for us wouldn't have any one else over him, legend in the making.

boll0cks!!!

Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 4:05 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I was out for a beer or three a couple of weeks ago at a well known real ale pub in Wigan. A member of our group, who like me has been watching Wigan a long long time said that Sam was the best fullback he has ever seen at Wigan. I thought about the likes of Tyrer, Fairbairn, Griffiths, Ashby, Lydon, Radders etc and do you know what, it's very hard to disagree with him.

I'm tempted to agree, too, of the ones I've seen - though I never saw Jim Sullivan play. Several were better defensively, but in terms of their overall contribution, Sam's right up there, and he's still only a kid!

Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 4:05 pm  

People always say there's better in the NRL without actually watching the NRL. As I said earlier, the only 2 alongside Sam at the moment for attacking ability are Barba, GI and Slater