Re: The Penalty : Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:59 pm  

Geoff wrote:

kt170496 wrote:

You are wrong it was a penalty and the ref got it wrong ..The kick should have been taken were the ball hit the ground ..The Leeds player took the man out if he hadn't Wigan would have scored ...

Pat wouldn't have scored, the ball went into touch. Clear penalty, though...and should have been 10m closer to the posts with another penalty for dissent.

Just as importantly as 10 yards further forward, shouldn't the penalty kick have been brought 10 metres infield? It was judged to be a late challenge on a kicker ( that may be harsh on Donald, but the fact is the penalty was given) The kick through from Richards then bounced into touch.

Tbh, not 100% sure of the RL rules - I know that in Union the penalty would have been taken from 15 metres infield - this would equate to 10 metres in League. Lockers seemed to be asking about bringing the ball infield to Alibert - he, of course, was following Bentham's advice that the ball should be 1 metre behind the 40 metre line. I honestly think Pat would have kicked it from 10 metres infield - the ball fell short to the left of the sticks.

This is not sour grapes, just curiosity! Wigan shouldn't have needed to be chasing the game after being 14 points up. Wigan will hopefully now come good as they frequently have after a defeat. Do it for 3 games as they mostly ( always?) have after a setback and we'll be champions!

Re: The Penalty : Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:09 pm  

Fames wrote:

Just as importantly as 10 yards further forward, shouldn't the penalty kick have been brought 10 metres infield?

No. Had it gone into touch on the full, then it would (should) have been 10m infield, but the spot is where it first lands (or is caught).

Re: The Penalty : Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:02 pm  

Geoff wrote:

Pat wouldn't have scored, the ball went into touch. Clear penalty, though...and should have been 10m closer to the posts with another penalty for dissent.

If the man had not been taken out Pat would not have kick he was looking to pass ..It would have been two on one in Wigan favor ..It should have been 10m nearer ..Leeds should look at their own men taking a players out without the ball

Re: The Penalty : Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:02 pm  

Geoff wrote:

Pat wouldn't have scored, the ball went into touch. Clear penalty, though...and should have been 10m closer to the posts with another penalty for dissent.

Maybe not Geoff, but an inside ball to Carmont (which is what Pat was looking to make) would have been a try as Donald was the last defender. Either way was a Wigan win....

ATEOTD though, it's all woulda, shoulda, coulda. We need to win on Friday now and perhaps we'll get a chance to redress the balance.

Re: The Penalty : Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:16 am  

imo this topic shows just how low some supposed rl fans will stoop to when their side gets beat,some posters on this forum need to hang their heads in shame regarding their vile comments!
these comments may have been made in the heat of the moment, or most likely under the influence of alcohol,but i hope that you will refrain from making such stupid and rash comments again.afterall it could just as easily happen to one of your players in future!

Re: The Penalty : Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:52 am  

Jonesy's a Legend wrote:

imo this topic shows just how low some supposed rl fans will stoop to when their side gets beat,some posters on this forum need to hang their heads in shame regarding their vile comments!
these comments may have been made in the heat of the moment, or most likely under the influence of alcohol,but i hope that you will refrain from making such stupid and rash comments again.afterall it could just as easily happen to one of your players in future!

Absolutely.

What they also forget in their tirade of pious stupidity, is that ultimately, it's a game. These are human beings just like the rest of us and as such don't deserve, no matter what, any injury being bestowed upon them. These fellas have the sweetbreads to cross the white line for the very Sky Plus paratroopers that criticise them.

Some of the sycophantic ramblings by Wigan fans have been both incredibly inaccurate and with any lack of human compassion. That they feel, irrespective of incidents in the game (and let's remember it was obstruction not elbowing with intent) a professional sportsman there to entertain them whilst they peer at the screen over their oversized paunch, has been "dealt the cards he deserves", is p!ss poor. On every level.

Get a grip folks, this is a sport played for observers. It's tough, it's fast, it's passionate, it's hard. But it's also a sport. Have a little decorum, common sense and respect for what they do.

Re: The Penalty : Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:05 am  

Lock it.

Re: The Penalty : Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:40 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

Maybe not Geoff, but an inside ball to Carmont (which is what Pat was looking to make) would have been a try as Donald was the last defender. Either way was a Wigan win....

probably not.

had McGuire not pulled Carmont back, he would have been right on his shoulder - so as soon as Carmont got the ball, McGuire could have made a legal challenge from behind. Carmont wouldnt have outpaced McGuire, so wouldnt have made it to the line, IMO.

Re: The Penalty : Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:48 am  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

probably not.

had McGuire not pulled Carmont back, he would have been right on his shoulder - so as soon as Carmont got the ball, McGuire could have made a legal challenge from behind. Carmont wouldnt have outpaced McGuire, so wouldnt have made it to the line, IMO.

Mcguire was on his way down when he grabbed Carmont so i doubt that.

Re: The Penalty : Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:50 pm  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

probably not.

had McGuire not pulled Carmont back, he would have been right on his shoulder - so as soon as Carmont got the ball, McGuire could have made a legal challenge from behind. Carmont wouldnt have outpaced McGuire, so wouldnt have made it to the line, IMO.

I think you need to actually look at the incident before posting! I know Carmont isn't the fastest centre in SL but I'd back him to beat Danny McGuire with ruptured knee ligaments over a 50 yard sprint!