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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 5:59 pm  
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I was ridiculed for saying a year or two ago that he could be as good as Hanley and that he might even turn out to be a better player, such are his natural gifts.

I stand by that. This lad has everything.

He's a level above Farrell and Robinson already: they were great players but he is even more special.

I'm not old enough to have seen Murphy or Boston but in my lifetime there's only Hanley that I've seen that is above him as a British player and in my estimation he is closing on the great man.

Tomkins is the kind of player that comes along only once every few decades. I sense that the tide of opinion has turned now and even non-Wigan fans (other than die-hard Wigan hating nutters) have put aside their envy of Wigan and are starting to appreciate the rare talent of Tomkins.


I've never gone for hating of great players, I like watching greats even if they don't play for Warrington, it makes you more nervous as a fan coming up against them but also that's part of the excitement of the game, the danger that a great player presents when he's coming up against you, and why it's so extra exciting when one plays for you and you know how the opposition feels, which is why I got so excited about GB games when Hanley, Schofield, Offiah and co were around because that's when they were in my team, so its similar when Tomkins plays for England.

In my opinion though as an opposition fan, I don't put Tomkins in the league of Robinson or Hanley. I can't compare him to Hanley anyway because he's such a different player, the only player I have ever thought you could compare to Hanley was Sonny Bill Williams and even then he was a fair way behind. Hanley to me is just off on his own, for one man to be able to have so much influence, I think he's the greatest rugby player of either code in history.

It's easier to compare Robinson and Tomkins as they are both such elusive runners, as has been pointed out by someone else, Tomkins isn't out and out quick but he's pretty quick and has the best balance and footwork of any player for a while, so I certainly rate him very highly but I would put Robinson ahead and by enough to make a clear distinction as well. Robinson was faster and more explosive from a standing start. As an opposition fan Robinson put more fear into me than Tomkins does, I don't think Tomkins has ever really ripped Warrington.

As to the question what will he become onwards and upwards, I reckon that will end up being an unanswered question as in 2 or 3 years time he will go off to play union, it's got the Iestyn Harris feel about it, its not a question of if but when. I would love to see him go to the NRL, keep him in league, get him away from playing against us, and see how he'd go in the NRL where he'd be a credit to British RL.
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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 6:04 pm  
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Josh Dugan and Brett Stewart are both better fullbacks than him at the moment.


when was the last time you watched them play?
when the 4nations was on i said on the vt board that brett stewart was the 2nd best full back in the world after billy slater but this season he hasn't been as good as last season and he defo isn't better than sam either is josh dugan there's another man made out of glass.

i watch every game of the nrl every week as all the games are shown on the sports channel here and sam would fit in any nrl team with out a shadow of doubt.

1st billy slater
joint 2nd sam and inglis.

i reckon by the end of the season inglis will have out performed slater tho. the more time he spends and fullback the better he is getting.
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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 6:23 pm  
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when was the last time you watched them play?
when the 4nations was on i said on the vt board that brett stewart was the 2nd best full back in the world after billy slater but this season he hasn't been as good as last season and he defo isn't better than sam either is josh dugan there's another man made out of glass.

i watch every game of the nrl every week as all the games are shown on the sports channel here and sam would fit in any nrl team with out a shadow of doubt.

1st billy slater
joint 2nd sam and inglis.

i reckon by the end of the season inglis will have out performed slater tho. the more time he spends and fullback the better he is getting.


Don't worry about watching the games, don't you know every player who plays in the NRL is automatically better than anyone who plays in SL? That seems to be the view some fans have!
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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 9:02 pm  
Hes the best player ive ever seen in a Wigan shirt with me only being 21, long may it continue.

What makes it even better? Every other opposition fan hates him :lol:
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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 9:09 pm  
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when was the last time you watched them play?
when the 4nations was on i said on the vt board that brett stewart was the 2nd best full back in the world after billy slater but this season he hasn't been as good as last season and he defo isn't better than sam either is josh dugan there's another man made out of glass.

i watch every game of the nrl every week as all the games are shown on the sports channel here and sam would fit in any nrl team with out a shadow of doubt.

1st billy slater
joint 2nd sam and inglis.

i reckon by the end of the season inglis will have out performed slater tho. the more time he spends and fullback the better he is getting.

Your talking about current form I'm sorry but Brett Stewart is better and always will be than Sam Tomkins at playing fullback and I see Josh has having more raw ability as well. Don't patronise me with this "i watch all the nrl games" trust me I watch a LOT of nrl games too my opinion is well founded.
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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 9:10 pm  
It's strange this thread has come up because if anything I think he's been quieter this year than last.

I don't think it's his fault - he still makes devastating breaks, but the pack is so on top and the halves have so much time and space to dictate play that Tomkins' brilliance isn't needed as much.
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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 9:12 pm  
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Your talking about current form I'm sorry but Brett Stewart is better and always will be than Sam Tomkins at playing fullback and I see Josh has having more raw ability as well. Don't patronise me with this "i watch all the nrl games" trust me I watch a LOT of nrl games too my opinion is well founded.


Josh Charnley having more raw ability than Sam Tomkins?

I think Tomkins is a better athlete and his ball handling skills are out of this world. That's before you factor in his instinctive feel for the game (seeing things others simply don't). I rate Charnley very highly.....but he can't touch Tomkins.
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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 9:31 pm  
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Josh Charnley having more raw ability than Sam Tomkins?

I think Tomkins is a better athlete and his ball handling skills are out of this world. That's before you factor in his instinctive feel for the game (seeing things others simply don't). I rate Charnley very highly.....but he can't touch Tomkins.

pretty sure he meant dugan.
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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 9:39 pm  
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People always say there's better in the NRL without actually watching the NRL. As I said earlier, the only 2 alongside Sam at the moment for attacking ability are Barba, GI and Slater



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Re: Sam Tomkins - Onwards & Upwards : Thu May 31, 2012 9:43 pm  
TrentBarrett wrote:
Your talking about current form I'm sorry but Brett Stewart is better and always will be than Sam Tomkins at playing fullback and I see Josh has having more raw ability as well. Don't patronise me with this "i watch all the nrl games" trust me I watch a LOT of nrl games too my opinion is well founded.


well if you did you would just see josh dugan is just another good player (strong and fast) not special and sam tomkins is, and tomkins is also alot better than stewart was we he was sam's age. stewart's best season was last season and doesn't look half as good just watch the world club challenge for proof.

how is me saying i watch every game of the nrl patronising? i know for a fact you dont get to watch all the nrl games in the uk unless you download them? but i do watch them all and get to see all the players in the nrl and tomkins is joint 2 best full back in the world maybe 3rd if inglis keeps it up as he is looking better than slater atm.
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