Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:05 am  

NSW wrote:

Higginson?

Is he ready yet? Why didn't he get a run in the friendly v Leigh if so?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:28 am  

Grimmy wrote:

[list=][/list]Suprised to hear that, he's not a world beater but always struck me as a good professional who works really hard. Can't remember hearing of any 'antics' but of course sometimes we don't

I've never heard about any antics either. For me, it's the fact that we seem to hear a lot more about his plans to move on than we do any plans he may have to improve his performances to an acceptable level.

Dave O was right about Sarge some time ago. While there's no doubting his physical prowess, the guy's a complete headless chicken. He hasn't got a rugby brain at all. The number of overlap opportunities he's missed. Unless he shows some sea-change in form for the whole rest of this season - and to be honest, I don't think you can coach what Sarginson lacks - I won't be remotely sorry to see him leave.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:35 am  

Cruncher wrote:

I've never heard about any antics either. For me, it's the fact that we seem to hear a lot more about his plans to move on than we do any plans he may have to improve his performances to an acceptable level.

Dave O was right about Sarge some time ago. While there's no doubting his physical prowess, the guy's a complete headless chicken. He hasn't got a rugby brain at all. The number of overlap opportunities he's missed. Unless he shows some sea-change in form for the whole rest of this season - and to be honest, I don't think you can coach what Sarginson lacks - I won't be remotely sorry to see him leave.

To be fair though, it's not been him talking about plans to move, it's other people, and they were wrong because they all kept linking him to Bath. Agreed with regards to his rugby brain, it's a shame because his speed, agility and workrate are good. However, unbelievably he's still only 22, so plenty time to develop that over the next decade or so of his career.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:54 am  

Wigan Peer wrote: The Mole @RLW_Mole EXCLUSIVE in the Mole in @LeagueWeek today: @GCTitans sign gun English centre Dan Sarginson. Moley is normally on the money..... http://the18thman.com/2016/03/23/gold-coast-titans-sign-england-international/

Wigan Peer wrote: The Mole @RLW_Mole EXCLUSIVE in the Mole in @LeagueWeek today: @GCTitans sign gun English centre Dan Sarginson. Moley is normally on the money..... http://the18thman.com/2016/03/23/gold-coast-titans-sign-england-international/

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:47 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

To be fair though, it's not been him talking about plans to move, it's other people, and they were wrong because they all kept linking him to Bath. Agreed with regards to his rugby brain, it's a shame because his speed, agility and workrate are good. However, unbelievably he's still only 22, so plenty time to develop that over the next decade or so of his career.

I think he'll need to improve a lot more quickly than that if he wants to attract anything in the NRL other than scorn.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:05 pm  

If Sargenson is off which looks quite likely we need to either promote Gildart to first choice or sign a top class centre. Gildart looks ready to be given the opportunity. I don't see the point of signing an average centre to replace him. If we promote Gildart we need to look for a utility back to cover wing, centre and full back in case of injury. I feel a top class centre would give the squad a big boost though.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:11 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I've never heard about any antics either. For me, it's the fact that we seem to hear a lot more about his plans to move on than we do any plans he may have to improve his performances to an acceptable level.

Dave O was right about Sarge some time ago. While there's no doubting his physical prowess, the guy's a complete headless chicken. He hasn't got a rugby brain at all. The number of overlap opportunities he's missed. Unless he shows some sea-change in form for the whole rest of this season - and to be honest, I don't think you can coach what Sarginson lacks - I won't be remotely sorry to see him leave.

The guy isn't liked by many employees of the club for a variety reasons.
Last Thursday after the defeat the players did "a Hull" and closed the dressing room door to everyone. After a short while the only player to exit and to walk off into the distance without an apparent care in the world was Sarginson.
Apparently the mood within the squad has been low for a few weeks now. Couldn't find out why this was other than than its very unusual for the squad as they are normally quite upbeat.
Gildart is already much better than Sarginson so for me his place was/is in jeopardy once ST gets back anyway.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:01 pm  

Yes, Gildart has done nothing wrong, in fact he's performed pretty well. Surely the "utility back cover" is Tierney?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:13 pm  

Charnley is definitely going to Sale next season, done deal. We need to sign a top quality replacement!

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:11 am  

It will be a shame for Sarginson to go, he's only 22 so still time to improve but is he getting the right coaching at the minute? He seems to have faltered since Harris and Deacon left, he could potentially be one of the best centres in RL on his day but I think he needs proper coaching which he will get in the NRL, and I do think he will kick in and make a success of the NRL move.

On another note I can see Burgess replacing Charnley at the end of the season.