Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:33 pm  

EHW wrote:

We (Saints) have only lost 6 games, and really have only had 4 poor performances....Good Friday, Magic Weekend, Catalan and Hull KR away. We have beaten the rest of the top 6 away from home (Hudds excluding as we haven't played them yet), hammered Castleford at home, done the double on Leeds, etc....

On Friday we were hardly "completely dominated for most of the game", we made a lot of mistakes in the first half, but the 2nd half was a pretty strong example of keeping it simple and grinding them down for the win. Not a classic performance, but without any half backs we can hardly expect much attacking zing, and is pretty much how we are going to have to play the rest of the year.

You are looking through rose tinted glasses if you can't see that Leeds dominated for most of the game. It was only when Leeds started to tire due to being down to 12 men that Saints got back into the game. In that game you had two half backs just as Leeds did. They had Burrow and McGuire sat in the stand. I have several friends who are Saints supporters and they all have the same view as me.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:40 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

But missing your two halves allowed that young sinfield lad to get a game in the halves and he went OK I reckon, big future ahead of him.

True, the combined ages of the Leeds halfbacks was 52, the combined ages of the Saints halfbacks was 65!!

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:57 pm  

We haven't had " A Wigan Performance " since Catalan away . Hope we get some in the play offs !

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:42 pm  

nohalfbacks wrote:

You are looking through rose tinted glasses if you can't see that Leeds dominated for most of the game. It was only when Leeds started to tire due to being down to 12 men that Saints got back into the game. In that game you had two half backs just as Leeds did. They had Burrow and McGuire sat in the stand. I have several friends who are Saints supporters and they all have the same view as me.

McDermott's decision to leave two subs unused when down to 12 men on the back of the cup final was a puzzler.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:37 am  

This topic has gone a little bit wayward everyone?!

In my opinion, every time we get a "first teamer" back fit he is thrown straight in despite the youngster who has played just as well if not better in the first teamers absence. Said first teamers then continue to perform worse than the "stand in" youngster and usually results in a loss. Play to form Shaun, not a name.

Its hopefully just a ploy to play tot he set up of the play offs in order to get to the GF, but in fairness, its not fair to the paying fans is it so I can understand everyone's' grievance with the game in general at present.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:43 am  

Looking at the eticketing site for Friday it's going to be a big crowd, could even push 20k depending on how many Leeds bring. Hopefully we are treated to something that is a "Wigan performance", as our recent home record against the top teams doesn't make good reading.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:06 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Or maybe youre just more expectant having seen the "flair" of previous generations. A 30m pass was a big deal in 2005 (Paul Cooke made a career out of it), but its standard today. Defensive structures mean every try (generally speaking) comes from what would be considered a "great" try "back in the day", but because a) its common now and b) were not wearing nostalgia glasses we dont celebrate it for what it is anymore. Weve become an expectant culture as opposed to an appreciative one (thats not just in RL mind).

I had the misfortune of watching Saints vs Bradford at VP when we put 50 past them recently. London would of been embarassed by some of the defence on show, and Saints attack didnt need to get past run at the gap. Not everything was better.

I would recommend anyone to have a look at the "RL Action" programme for the 1981 "Battle of Fartown" (available in full on Youtube). Once you have done that see if your opinions still stand.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:08 pm  

Levrier wrote:

I would recommend anyone to have a look at the "RL Action" programme for the 1981 "Battle of Fartown" (available in full on Youtube). Once you have done that see if your opinions still stand.

I was privileged to have attended that game, it was actually better than the new years day v wire game a few years later.

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:29 pm  

hatty wrote: I was privileged to have attended that game, it was actually better than the new years day v wire game a few years later. "A game for the connoisseur" was how Maurice Bamford described it. I remember Martin Foy shadow boxing close to the touchline when everyone else was getting stuck in. For those of you who have never seen it take a look. It was mayhem. http://wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=2365

hatty wrote: I was privileged to have attended that game, it was actually better than the new years day v wire game a few years later. "A game for the connoisseur" was how Maurice Bamford described it. I remember Martin Foy shadow boxing close to the touchline when everyone else was getting stuck in. For those of you who have never seen it take a look. It was mayhem. http://wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=2365

Re: Another 'not a Wigan performance' Shaun : Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:33 pm  

Isn't that the one where the black Hudds player gets targetted?