: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:53 am  

Jermaine Beckford...

Nothing happened.



Daft keeper for chinning your elbow.

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:53 am  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Crespo wasn't world class? He was a world record fee IIRC, surely a player breaking those kind of records has to be one of the best?

Mascherano's one of the best holding midfielders in the world, so I'd say it's fair to say he's world class. I can name more wide players better than Robinho than I can name holding midfielders better than Mascherano.

Robihno is quality at international and club level. Even in his first few months in England his goalscoring record is excellent (a goal every two games - pretty good for a wide player wouldn't you say?) and not to mention his assists and the fact that he has become Brazil's talisman over the last two years. He will never be one of the top 3 or so in the world as he cannot grab the game by the scruff of the neck. I am interested in hearing all of these wingers who are better than him though.

Mascherano? How can someone be world class and not be able to pass the ball? I can think of several midfielders I would have ahead of Mascherano.
Macherano couldn't even get a game for a West Ham team facing relegation. he can tackle and he battles hard. He's not a footballer.

Crespo? Very good player but overrated. How has he played in the last two years?

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:54 am  

Hiddink in talks with Chelsea.

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:55 am  

Just been reading The Mirror ( no i dont believe everything i read Keith) but there was a caption about Vorinon stating that he might go back to Liverpool because of their striker shortages. He states that his agent has spoken to Liverpool about his "return"

But when the Mirror asked Liverpool, they said they only talked to Veronicas agent about the easiest way to get rid of him.

But you never know with Rafa....

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:00 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Robihno is quality at international and club level. Even in his first few months in England his goalscoring record is excellent (a goal every two games - pretty good for a wide player wouldn't you say?) and not to mention his assists and the fact that he has become Brazil's talisman over the last two years. He will never be one of the top 3 or so in the world as he cannot grab the game by the scruff of the neck. I am interested in hearing all of these wingers who are better than him though.

Mascherano? How can someone be world class and not be able to pass the ball? I can think of several midfielders I would have ahead of Mascherano.
Macherano couldn't even get a game for a West Ham team facing relegation. he can tackle and he battles hard. He's not a footballer.

Crespo? Very good player but overrated. How has he played in the last two years?

You said Crespo wasn't world class, which is completely wrong, as in his day, he was one of the best around.

Wide players I'd take over Robinho:

1) Ronaldo
2) Messi
3) Ribery
4) Robben


As for Mascherano, we're not talking midfielders as a whole, we're talking holding midfielders, he isn't that bad of a passer, he keeps it simple and gives it off to the better players, like Alonso and Gerrard. At holding the midfield, only Cambiasso and possibly De Rossi are up there with Mascherano. If you want to use Robinho being Brazil's 'talisman' as an excuse for him being so good, what about Masch? He's just become his countries captain, their leader!

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:04 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

how?

Whoosh

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:07 pm  

MikePB wrote:

Just been reading The Mirror ( no i dont believe everything i read Keith) but there was a caption about Vorinon stating that he might go back to Liverpool because of their striker shortages. He states that his agent has spoken to Liverpool about his "return"

But when the Mirror asked Liverpool, they said they only talked to Veronicas agent about the easiest way to get rid of him.

But you never know with Rafa....

...and?

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:08 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

...and?

Serves me right for not checking the page before

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:09 pm  

MikePB wrote:

Serves me right for not checking the page before

well done for admitting it.

: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:43 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

You said Crespo wasn't world class, which is completely wrong, as in his day, he was one of the best around.

Wide players I'd take over Robinho:

1) Ronaldo
2) Messi
3) Ribery
4) Robben

Much as Robben is doing well at Madrid now, its only a matter of time before he spends another lengthy spell on the treatment table. He's incredibly fragile and I'd say that gives Robino an edge over him as an investment, which is what football transfers are about.