Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:00 am  

The Green and Gold campaign only started when United were faltering at the beginning of the season and we were throwing money around.

If we get into the CL this summer (personally, I don't think we will make it) and go on a spending spree, can we expect the Norwich campaign to be 'cranked-up'?

Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:21 am  

Enfield Exile wrote:

The Green and Gold campaign only started when United were faltering at the beginning of the season and we were throwing money around.

If we get into the CL this summer (personally, I don't think we will make it) and go on a spending spree, can we expect the Norwich campaign to be 'cranked-up'?

Yeah, it's all about Citeh. Man Utd fans never had an issue with the Glazers until Citeh became big time.

Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:16 am  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Yeah, it's all about Citeh. Man Utd fans never had an issue with the Glazers until Citeh became big time.

Who rattled your cage?

This issue became far more prominent as our spent more money. There were protests at the takeover but then there was hardly a peep after that until Sheikh Mansour took over and then it gathered momentum as the good Sheikh got his wallet out this summer.

Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:25 am  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

I don't think the aim of a boycott should be to buy the club at a reduced price. The aim of a boycott should be to persuade the Glazers to accept fair market value for the club, which will give the Glazers a profit of a few hundred million for their ownership of the club.

Errr... the aim of the boycott should be to line the pockets of the Smurfs? I would think the aim of the boycott is for the Glazers to leave. I wouldn't think United fans care about how much money they make, just as long as they are no longer the owners.

You truly are stupid if you think the Glazers are going to sell up before the next TV rights issue is resolved. They want the power to be able to sell individual TV rights (if memory serves, Barca and Real are doing this) of United games so they can charge £5 a time to overseas 'fans'. If they get this money, it wouldn't bother them if no-one turns up to watch them play.

Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:50 am  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Who rattled your cage?

This issue became far more prominent as our spent more money. There were protests at the takeover but then there was hardly a peep after that until Sheikh Mansour took over and then it gathered momentum as the good Sheikh got his wallet out this summer.

You've spent £400m to get to 4th place (and you don't even think you'll do that). It'll probably cost another £400m to get to 2nd and another £200m to win the league. A billion quid to win the league, and the fact is you probably won't even do that. You'll probably end up with the Carling Cup for your billion quid.

IMO United fans seem pretty happy that Citeh finally are looking like putting up decent competition.

IMO after the CC first leg Citeh fans were getting giddy about being in the big time. Citeh aren't close ATM. You got knocked out of the CC by United, (a comp they couldn't care less about) you've been knocked out of the FA Cup by Super Stoke City and you don't even think you'll manage to get 4th this season. As if Man United fans are being driven by your "success".

Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:01 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote: There's supposed to be a statement from the "Red Knights" today. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... ter-united

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote: There's supposed to be a statement from the "Red Knights" today. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... ter-united

Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:02 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Errr... the aim of the boycott should be to line the pockets of the Smurfs? I would think the aim of the boycott is for the Glazers to leave. I wouldn't think United fans care about how much money they make, just as long as they are no longer the owners.

Which was my point.

Red Knights offer fair market value + Green/Gold = Glazers say "Thanks, but no thanks. We keep the club."

Red Knights offer fair market value + Green/Gold + Serious show of intent in the form of boycotts and financial withdrawal from the club = Possible success.

You truly are stupid if you think the Glazers are going to sell up before the next TV rights issue is resolved. They want the power to be able to sell individual TV rights (if memory serves, Barca and Real are doing this) of United games so they can charge £5 a time to overseas 'fans'. If they get this money, it wouldn't bother them if no-one turns up to watch them play.

If the MU supporters can organise effective, widespread boycotts over a period of several matches then the Glazers won't have any other option but to accept an offer.

If MU supporters can organise supporters to not turn up to Old Trafford, then surely they can arrange a worldwide campaign for MU supporters not to watch those £5 a match TV games. Instead of treating overseas MU supporters as schitt on their shoe, they will include them in the worldwide campaign to take back their club.

The TV rights issue isn't going to be resolved if MU supporters mount a serious anti-Glazer campaign which puts the TV income in doubt.

[Wanderer]

Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:26 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Then again, justice wasn't served for Coyle, Gallas only got a yellow and I'm pretty sure Arsenal scored from the resulting tackle. If Gallas got the deserved red and Arsenal didn't score as a result of the tackle, Coyle's words may well have been different.

Spot on - the turning point in that particular game (the goal being an equaliser for Arsenal who went on to win).

Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:40 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

The Green and Gold campaign only started when United were faltering at the beginning of the season and we were throwing money around.

Wrong.

It started after Christmas. At that time United were top of the League, in the knockout stages of the European Cup and in the semi-final of the League Cup.

This all came about after the release of the financial figures of United, and the bond issue which mentioned the possible sale of Carrington.

Enfield Exile wrote:

If we get into the CL this summer (personally, I don't think we will make it) and go on a spending spree, can we expect the Norwich campaign to be 'cranked-up'?

A lot now depends on the Red Knights. If they can work up a viable agreement whereby they have the funds to make a bid for United, then MUST and the Red Knights will then come up with the next stage of the protest. ATM all they're wanting fans to do is to join MUST and get behind the GG campaign.

Re: Even More Football Chat : Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:47 pm  

The self-importance of some fans eh