United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:08 am  

The RU mob would struggle to agree to a merger of RU and RL.

From an RL point of view, would it be enough to get agreement on the combined game's Laws by adopting RU Laws but with an irrevocable undertaking to just make two simple amendments;

-13 players a side

-scrap line-outs

With any further rule changes to evolve over time by agreement?

The benefit of securing a merger would be that (existing RL) clubs in NSW, Queensland and the North of England could dominate an enlarged global game.

Re: United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:11 am  

Are you daft or what I had to check to see if it was April 1st

Re: United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:11 am  

Next Churchill will solve the problems in Israel and Palestine.

"If you all just shake hands and accept each other's right to live and have your own homeland as well as sharing Jerusalem I can see this ending well for all concerned".

Re: United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:12 am  

Are you on drugs?

Re: United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:22 am  

Mr Churchill wrote:

The RU mob would struggle to agree to a merger of RU and RL.

From an RL point of view, would it be enough to get agreement on the combined game's Laws by adopting RU Laws but with an irrevocable undertaking to just make two simple amendments;

-13 players a side

-scrap line-outs

With any further rule changes to evolve over time by agreement?

The benefit of securing a merger would be that (existing RL) clubs in NSW, Queensland and the North of England could dominate an enlarged global game.

I'd merge if RU agrees to become 13 a side code scrapping lineouts, rucks & mauls whilst adopting the six tackle rule, awarding 4 points for a try and two for a conversion whilst also bringing in the 40/20 rule. Do all that and I think they have a deal

Re: United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:25 am  

We've spent one hundred years evolving the game of rugby, why would we want to go back?

Re: United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:25 am  

Union will be amateur in Australia within fifteen years. Properly amateur this time. I think their remaining junior clubs would jump at an opportunity to participate in RL comps here.

Richie wrote:

What would the purpose or benefit of a merged game be?

Internet bragging rights

Re: United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:29 am  

Richie wrote:

What would the purpose or benefit of a merged game be?

The benefits would be a single code of Rugby that would be better place to compete on a domestic and world stage with other sports. Imagine an English league with Leicester, Northampton etc, combined with Wigan, Leeds etc. It'd be a helluva league. And the rah-rah boys have a much better supported international game than we'll ever have. Couple that with the blue-chip sponsors that seem to be drawn to the 15-a side game, and there are massive benefits.

The downside is, that the new game would be utter tripe, because it'd almost certainly be RU with 13 players. Lineouts, rucks,mauls. Constant kicking. I doubt the RL fans would adopt that.

I wonder how an experimental mini-series between the two codes would work. Top 2 SL teams vs top-two in RU, in a mini-league. Try some different rules and see what sort of game we'd get. Drop line-outs and two players, but with contested scrums and rucks/mauls. Or 15 a side limited tackles.

It'll never happen. Completely fantasy.

Re: United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:43 am  

beetwaste wrote:

The benefits would be a single code of Rugby that would be better place to compete on a domestic and world stage with other sports. Imagine an English league with Leicester, Northampton etc, combined with Wigan, Leeds etc. It'd be a helluva league. And the rah-rah boys have a much better supported international game than we'll ever have. Couple that with the blue-chip sponsors that seem to be drawn to the 15-a side game, and there are massive benefits.

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Compete with which sports? Tennis? Darts? The NFL? Boxing? How will such a hybrid code take fans from those? Will the hybrid game have more total fans and revenues than the current combined SL and RU? Can't really see it.

Re: United global game; merger of RL and RU : Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:48 am  

There is always the chance that League and Union might merge although personally I doubt it will ever happen. But if things had been slightly different in the early 1890s, there might have been just one code of rugby in this country and equally internationally. This is a theme that a recently published novel by London League Publications explores. It is based on answering the question "what would have happened if before August 1895 the Northern clubs had been in the majority and had control of the game". Written by Peter Lush it is fiction but it is possible that things could have gone that way. What a pity it didn't. More details on "Rugby Football: A United Game" shown on http://www.llpshop.co.uk.

There is always the chance that League and Union might merge although personally I doubt it will ever happen. But if things had been slightly different in the early 1890s, there might have been just one code of rugby in this country and equally internationally. This is a theme that a recently published novel by London League Publications explores. It is based on answering the question "what would have happened if before August 1895 the Northern clubs had been in the majority and had control of the game". Written by Peter Lush it is fiction but it is possible that things could have gone that way. What a pity it didn't. More details on "Rugby Football: A United Game" shown on http://www.llpshop.co.uk.