Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:21 am  

I would have to do for
Dannatt
Harrison

Part of a outstanding front row, under Smith.

Other props I liked are

King
O Meley
Street
Moa
Lynch

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:19 am  

My dad's best until the 1950's power pack came along was Harold Bowman. He then ranked Mick Scott as his equal.

My best are two from that pack, Scott and Jim Drake plus Mick Harrison who is the best I have seen after those two.

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:43 am  

Has to be Harold Bowman and Mick Scott by a distance.

Very unlucky for Trevor Skerrett, less so for other top props,
Charlie Stone, Vince Farrar, Keith Tindall, Andy Dannatt, Karl Harrison, Jim Macklin, Terry Kirchin, Paul King, Dave Brooks & Paul Rose.

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:47 am  

Despite his antics as an individual in and aroud Red Hawk, I'd say Dannatt, and despite unsettling the dressing room I'd also say Harrison. Street was just a thug, hard as nails, no messing. King did some great things for FC and could have done so much more. Maybe once this thread is complete we can have a similar one for players who could have done more with their talent if it weren't for other distractions?

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:02 am  

Bill Ramsey .
Terry Kirchin was a second rower slippery as an eel and as hard to stop his lay off because of it.

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:22 am  

Uppo58 wrote:

Has to be Harold Bowman and Mick Scott by a distance.

Very unlucky for Trevor Skerrett, less so for other top props,
Charlie Stone, Vince Farrar, Keith Tindall, Andy Dannatt, Karl Harrison, Jim Macklin, Terry Kirchin, Paul King, Dave Brooks & Paul Rose.

This, Bowman and Scott for me too with a close third and fourth to Mick Harrison and Trevor Skerrett. Whilst Skerret was an outstanding player and great tackler for Trinity and his first couple of seasons at Hull, his style after his knees going to pot meant going forward he used to pull up with a funny step just before impact on being tackled almost every time reducing his effectiveness (IMO) and frankly he was done after the 82/83 season spending more than half the next 3 seasons on the injury list. Quality player and deservedly so, gave his all every time but for me not in the top two of Hull props.

Other Hull props of the past worthy of a mention are:

Frank Boylen; the first ever dual code international in RL playing for England RU in their first 4 matches of 1908 and after only 11 months and 30 games for Hull, at the ripe old age of 30 he was chosen for the Gt.Britain squad to tour down under becoming our first GB touring international (& also the first to be sent off in a tour match!!) Made just the one GB appearance in the first test, played also for England and Yorkshire.

Tom Herridge 1907-1921; one of the most imposing men & looks hard as nails in the photos and was. Signed from York RU he played an integral part of our early Challenge cup final teams including the 1914 success (4 CC finals and two losing Yorkshire cups). Made 375 appearances scoring 44 tries and would have made a hatful more were it not for WWI.

John 'johnno' Beasty, 1912/13- 1926/7.
Local lad, signed up to alleviate a schedule pile up and his first match was the Christmas day derby of 1912, ended up playing 283 games and considering 4 mssed years due to WWI would have being a member of the 400 club. Solid and dependable one

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:12 pm  

I think Harold Bowman should be a certainty. I'd agree with others regarding Mick Scott and Jim Drake. I'm also surprised that Mickey Paea's name hasn't been mentioned, although I can understand that as he has been with us for such a short time. Certainly a part of the team that has many worthy nominations.

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:29 pm  

as initially suspected this has thrown up a record number of candidates, well done everybody - gonna need a bit of wading through the select the nominees - i'll let this one run on for a bit yet

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:53 pm  

Skerret and Stone for me with Karl Harrison close behind. Charlie Stone drinking orange juice in the Caroline waiting for his wife to pick him up. Sunday evening memories

Re: All time greatest Hull FC team No.s 8 and 10 Prop Forwar : Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:18 pm  

My nominations would go to
Mick Harrison
Vince Farrar
Trevor Skerrett
Charlie Stone
Karl Harrison
Mark O'Meley

As others have said honourable mentions go to Dannatt, King, Tindall. Although neither was a great player I think one of the most effective pairings at prop we have had were Carvell and Dowes. They seemed to be there week after week doing the hard groundwork for others. I would love it if we had a pair of props at the moment who could put in as many minutes as consistently as they did. Unfortunately one such prop we got rid of is still playing elsewhere, Andy Lynch.

I think one of the features of good props is that you tend not to notice them until they are not there. It is only when they are substituted or unavailable you realise just how much work they do. One I particularly remember in this respect is Craig Greenhill.

I feel guilty for saying that one of the things I remember most about Andy Dannatt was him breaking Ellery Hanley's jaw in a game against Leeds at the Boulevard. Hanley had lost a lot of his speed but used his incredible understanding of the game to often be in front of their ball carrier ready for an offload. Dannatt got fed up of him being in the way and cracked him off the ball. He was sent off. I cannot remember if we lost - probably - but at the time he got a big cheer.