Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:51 am  

Standee wrote:

Where have I said I begrudge them not losing money, I applaud them for it, where do I say they have not done some things well, they have indeed, but they have failed miserably in the single most important thing for any sporting team, on the field success.

2 CC Finals, (one of them a win) and a grand final. It's more success than most clubs boards have produced. Agar is a bad appointment, no doubt about that, but could the club afford (in reputation terms) to sack a coach after just a year AGAIN after Kear/Sharp?

Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:52 am  

barham red wrote:

team will still play in the KC which is controlled by Allam.

I must have missed the sales of the KC by the Council, when did that happen?

Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:53 am  

barham red wrote:

Maybe I am but he seems to leave a trail mismanagement behind him, the biggest worry I have is the link between Allam and Pearson and the coincidence that they ahve both got involved in RL at exactly the same time after both saying they weren't interested at all.

That's my worry too tbh.

The idea that this is a way for him to distance himself from Allam makes no sense whatsoever, his team will still play in the KC which is controlled by Allam.

Is it? Not the SMC?

Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:53 am  

Standee wrote:

I must have missed the sales of the KC by the Council, when did that happen?

Does the SMC not control the KC? And Allam controls the SMC?

Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:54 am  

barham red wrote:

He's got a good track record, was at Leeds when they went into financial meltdown, went to city and sold them to bartlett and co, off to derby did a couple of years and sold them then back to city and had to turn to Allam due to city being in financial meltdown. Not yet left a club in a better position than when he took over.

With Allams sudden found fondness for KR after previously not being interested in RL and now Pearsons interest in FC after again previously not being interested in RL it certainly makes for interesting times.

Negative spin from a rovers fans what a surprise. I have mixed feeling about this, one thing I am sure about is that Pearson is not a pawn of the Allams.

Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:54 am  

Staffs FC wrote:

4 or 5 years ago a Pearson bid would have been far more agreeable. As things stand it seems like another of Allam's chess pieces has been moved. If AP opens with an unequivocal statement of support for Hull FC remaining independent and a club in its own right, with a cast iron long term lease at the KC to back that up, then maybe I will change my opinion. I'm one for trusting gut reaction and mine to this news is total suspicion.

For those who seem to want to talk down the current board's achievements I would remind them that without this board and the decisions they have made there probably wouldn't be a club any more. We have underachieved even with two CC finals and a grand final in the last decade, however we are also profitable and on a sound footing. A change of direction on the field, if it happens, will not be unwelcome, but don't slag the body of people who have ensured there is still a Hull FC club to support.

Couldn't agree more. While people are quick to jump on the board for all their failings they have done a lot right off the field. Would this club be were they are now without them. Yes they have probably made a profit but 12 years can hardly be classed as a quick buck, and they had to take on the risk in the first place. It almost ended in disaster inside one year with Gateshead.

Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:54 am  

Old_Faithful_IAKW wrote:

I'm sorry but are you for real? When he joined Hull City they were in Division 3, when he left they were in the Premiership..

No they weren't they had just stayed up due to Leeds going into admin and getting a points deduction, sity finished 4th bottom of the championship. Bartlett presided over the promotion season.

Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:55 am  

Old_Faithful_IAKW wrote:

Does the SMC not control the KC? And Allam controls the SMC?

The SMC manage the KC on behalf of the Council, it amazes me people's inability to understand that Allam cannot simply do "as he pleases, when he pleases", it suits the Rovers trolls, but I would have hoped an FC fan would understand it.

Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:56 am  

barham red wrote:

Maybe I am but he seems to leave a trail mismanagement behind him, the biggest worry I have is the link between Allam and Pearson and the coincidence that they ahve both got involved in RL at exactly the same time after both saying they weren't interested at all.

Agreed. All RL fans in the city who don't want a merger should be concerned IMO.

Re: Adam Pearson in Hull FC takeover bid.... : Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:57 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

allam stated he wouldn't buy one club without the other so can't buy us without completely contradicting himself.

pearson is a football man and there is no big money available in RL. Why would he want to buy a club in a sport he knows nothing about where there is very little potential to make any real money?

He's a front for allam

Allam also said he did not want to be seen to favour one club over the other, then about 2 months later he dropped £1m through rovers letter box.

Sport is a business and as such the senior management of sporting companies are easily transferable. Agreed that there is no big money in RL, but then again there are not the outgoings that there are in football. I don;t have access to exact figures, but lets say that Hull FC's fixed costs (rent and total salaries) are about £3.5m per year. With the variable expenditure we have we still post a profit on income of around £5m (again this is an estimate) bu this is on an average gate of 12000 ish. Many, including myself, beleive that with a team at the right end of the table being coached by a top manager we could easily get an average gate of 15000. Concervative estimate of £750k extra income, all of which falls to the bottom line, all of which belongs to AP. There is money to be had by those who own, providing the product on the field is a winning one.

If this deal goes ahead, which by the sounds of it, it will AP will give Agar until the end of the season, then I would expect to see a change of team coach. He will not rock the boat too much in the short term, given the point in the season we are. Pearson knows that its the coach which is the key personnel.

The removal of the current board is something many have hankered for. Let hope they are true to their word and start returning to support the team.